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There seem to be some reviews that indicate issues with running this memory on X79. The GSkill website indicates it was designed for Z77 only. I'm no dummy when it comes to memory, and I understand all of these marketing gimmicks like 'quad channel kits'.

But, is there any truth to these claims? I'm helping a guy build a X79 workstation, and since the Samsung wonder RAM is sold out everywhere, I was leaning towards the Trident for high clocked stuff.

TY for the help!
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Quad-Channel isn't a gimmick. For X79, Quad Channel performs better than Dual.
I don't think it matters what chipset you use the ram in, as long as the motherboard supports the Ram/speed

Here's an alternative to the Trident X, Basically the same thing, only black with blue stickers.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231585
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post #3 of 9
In most cases, two dual channel kits will work perfectly fine in quad channel configuration on X79.
But if for some reason they don't, having a quad channel certification on your memory kit gives you full rights to terrorise customer support until you get a working configuration.
Basically, that's the only difference.

If you're looking at the high-clocked versions of TridentX (DDR3-2400 and above) you might have some issues caused by CPU memory controller's inability to hold these clocks.
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Trident X specifically from G.skill mention that they only guarantee it running with i7 3770k's and not every other Ivy chip either, due to the IMC difference. Many People had issues running their 3570k's even with Trident X 2400Mhz.

If you wanna stick to 8GB of total memory while enabling quad channel memory bandwidth, then these are for you:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231517

I'm also running the same and they even OC very well to 2400Mhz @ 10-12-11-27. If you're interested, I don't mind letting mine go, send me a PM.
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Originally Posted by Ali Man View Post

Trident X specifically from G.skill mention that they only guarantee it running with i7 3770k's and not every other Ivy chip either, due to the IMC difference. Many People had issues running their 3570k's even with Trident X 2400Mhz.

If you wanna stick to 8GB of total memory while enabling quad channel memory bandwidth, then these are for you:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231517

I'm also running the same and they even OC very well to 2400Mhz @ 10-12-11-27. If you're interested, I don't mind letting mine go, send me a PM.
As Sam OCX mentioned, the CPU's integrate memory controller comes into play. Remember, SB-e is based on Sandy Bridge. The 1155 Sandy Bridge will only run up to 2133 ram. The 2011 CPUs can push 2400, but they better have a good IMC! Ivy Bridge on the other hand can run much higher memory, which is why those kits are "Designed" for Z77/Ivy Bridge.
Edited by ericeod - 3/22/13 at 11:42pm
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As Sam OCX mentioned, the CPU's integrate memory controller comes into play. Remember, SB-e is based on Sandy Bridge. The 1155 Dandy Bridge will only run up to 2133 ram. The 2011 CPUs can push 2400, but they better have a good IMC! Ivy Bridge on the other hand can run much higher memory, which is why those kits are "Designed" for Z77/Ivy Bridge.

Even Ivy Bridge chips need good IMC's to run higher memory clocks my friend. Generally speaking, yes, Ivy does have a lot better memory OC'ing potential and support compared to Sandy or any previous generation, but there's always a catch.

And there's an actual difference between SB-E's memory controller as compared to SB and it is that, SB's IMC has support of 1333Mhz modules, meaning that there wont be a worlds difference in installing any higher speed memory. SB-Es IMC on the other has support up till 1600Mhz memory modules which basically means that you'll get better performance and lower latencies for running a certain kit on SB-E than SB. IVB also has the same support as SB-E, but a different memory controller.
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While Sandy Bridge E certainly has a stronger/more robust IMC than does "vanilla" SNB, it is not nearly as strong as Ivy Bridge likely due to the quad - channel architecture and server background. The possibility exists for the CPU to push memory up to and even past 2400, but the number of chips capable of this is small. Ivy Bridge has changed many people's expectations when it comes to memory speed, but frankly anything beyond 2133 with decent timings shows hugely diminishing returns. The difference between 2133 9-10-10-27 and 2560 10-12-11-28 was imperceptible compared to the difference between 2133 and 1600 on my particular setup.
Fortunately, the chips in your sticks should be the same as in mine, which means you can likely run 2133 with very good timings, and that is what I'd aim for.
   
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