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Originally Posted by Biorganic View Post

BiOrganic, Really uncalled for. I think i may cry myself to sleep tonight. tongue.gif
I think starbomba brings up a good point, flexibility. I really like the or stipulation as it adds differing criteria.

As the winner of the 7870 from bgb 23 (received paypal for value) I actually spent even more than what I won and got a 7950. That card has been crunching basically 24/7 since i received it, heck I even built an entire rig for the card. My point is, The gpu prizes should go to those who really are going to use them for the BOINC team. 2cents.gif

I also like his point, though I think it may be a little bit tough to define "dedication" to our team. Some of use, like myself, have the capability to put out a bunch of points per day without a doubt. But I don't think that should be the basis of what is considered dedication to our team. For example, there are weeks when I let my dual 7950's crunch only WCG 24/7 but i only get around 75k ppd, yet I am just as dedicated as someone else who crunches DiRT 24/7 for months on end lol. If anything, I'd say just look at the persons PPD and set maybe a threshold for certain prizes. It's really hard to deal with these kinds of issues I guess haha
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So far, it seems like we agree on most of the credit requirements, but are still deciding on a proper minimum amount for the $100-$200. I'd like to bring up that the Paypal prize is distributed as 1x$100, 2x$50, 2x$25, so it makes the $100-$200$199.99 prize to be a common for each month.

Here's an updated requirements based on your inputs:
Prize value $0-$24.99: at least 5.000 credits
$25-$49.99: at least 25,000 credits
$50-$99.99: at least 75,000 credits
$100-$199.99: at least 200,000 credits (+ ??? million total credits & 1 BGB)
$200+: at least 500,000 credits (+25 million total credits & 5 BGBs)
(also, the requirement of having NOT accepted a prize given out for last month's BOINCers Gone Bonkers event applies)
(naturally, this is for 2 day BGBs. 4 day ones such as BGB23 last year will have all credits for the 4-day period doubled)

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Originally Posted by Angrybutcher View Post

An alternative, would be ditch the BGB participation, and just do say 1M points over the past 2-3 months. Pretty easy to achieve, even with CPU only tasks. That forces team participation.

This becomes a bit difficult to track as BOINCstats only goes back 40 days.
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Originally Posted by Terse View Post

I like credit requirements for large prizes, I also like consecutive participation requirements for large prizes too.

Only problem is that credit, even on my older machine, can vary up to 10 times as much for the same amount of electricity put in depending on which project you run. This is more of a general gripe with the BOINC platform as I feel some projects can and do increase the credit per watt they give just to get more participation. It just gets more out of hand too, for the project that started BOINC to give roughly 1/10th credit per watt that distrgen does needs a solution. Even considering this I think 125k over a BGB is an acceptable requirement.

I would like to say I am in your target demographic, as I first encountered the OCN team right before BGB 23, saw the sweet card as a top prize, then used this to push myself and my hardware to move to this team and stay active. I have passed 5 consecutive BGB's and have 25+ mill credit. You want people to join and stay, I think these requirements have done just that in my case.

Thanks for the input, glad to hear that you've stuck with us smile.gif
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Well, i do agree there must be "special" tiers for higher ended prizes, but i suggest it to be a more customized/flexible thing.

For equipment that can produce points (like GPU's) i feel there should be a requirement of at least 5 BGB's, and 15-20m points total. That really confirms someone's dedication to the team, and also helps to make sure said piece of hardware will help the winner (and the team) in future BGB's instead of just going with a fixed amount of BGB's (someone might have under 5 mil by BOINCing just for the minimum prizes but as he has attended 5+ BGB's he wins a GPU which won't be used for BOINC).

Cash prizes could be adjusted with a requirement of at least 5 BGB's, or 15-20m points total.

For stuff that would not help PPD, BOINC or the team, we could go with 10-15m points requirement or 3-5 BGB's on your belt. Those requirements, while substantial aren't as aggressive as it isn't such a vital piece of hardware.

That starts to make the prize requirements a bit complicated unfortunately.
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maybe for the 100-199$ prize. Try something like 5-10 million credit and 3 BGBs. That way you are not excluding those with either less hardware or who prefer lower ppd projects, but still motivating a continual participation in BOINC.

Considering the 100$ paypal will now be consistent for each BGB, it will give new members something to work towards.
Edited by Biorganic - 3/22/13 at 9:26pm
 
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maybe for the 100-199$ prize. Try something like 5-10 million credit and 3 BGBs. That way you are not excluding those with either less hardware or who prefer lower ppd projects, but still motivating a continual participation in BOINC.

Considering the 100$ paypal will now be consistent for each BGB, it will give new members something to work towards.

That. I could only agree more if it was just a total number of BGBs rather than total points; say at least a year of crunching for OCN and past three BGBs or something along those terms. Anyone can hit 25mil and stop and then just run the client for the BGB for prize entry... Sandbaggin should also not be allowed.

The 25mil does indeed put people out. I started running boinc for BGB23 and saw the 25mil and said, meh no big deal, I'll get there in no time. Since then I've only been able to turn out ~8k points a month on my measly 6 year old laptop which sits here running simap and rosetta 24/7. That machine is all I can sacrifice 24/7 and I've run my main rig for every BGB since then and load a few days of work every now and then if my rig is sitting idle; does my few thousand points a month make me any less dedicated than someone who can have 5 or 6 rigs going all the time doing a million points a day?

How do we define and perceive dedication?
 
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That. I could only agree more if it was just a total number of BGBs rather than total points; say at least a year of crunching for OCN and past three BGBs or something along those terms. Anyone can hit 25mil and stop and then just run the client for the BGB for prize entry... Sandbaggin should also not be allowed.

The 25mil does indeed put people out. I started running boinc for BGB23 and saw the 25mil and said, meh no big deal, I'll get there in no time. Since then I've only been able to turn out ~8k points a month on my measly 6 year old laptop which sits here running simap and rosetta 24/7. That machine is all I can sacrifice 24/7 and I've run my main rig for every BGB since then and load a few days of work every now and then if my rig is sitting idle; does my few thousand points a month make me any less dedicated than someone who can have 5 or 6 rigs going all the time doing a million points a day?

How do we define and perceive dedication?

I literally posted the same thing a couple posts up XD. Great minds think alike thumb.gif

But yeah, dedication is definitely the hardest part to define. But for the BGB events, the problem is that we are aiming for massive credits for these events so no matter what even the "dedicated" boincers will mostly be drowned out.
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Lets assume that we cannot accurately determine a given users dedication to BOINC. In lieu of quantifiable "dedication" it only makes sense to assign a numerical value as a metric to gauge each candidates eligibility. In this situation it will most likely end up being either total BOINC credit and/or past BGB participation. There is not much else to use.

As for what the respective amounts of credit should be per prize tier... I am not certain. I am thinking something formulaic may make the most sense. Assume a "dedicated" boincer would average 50k ppd (i was pulling almost double this on a 4870, so i think this is pretty reasonable) and extrapolate that 50k ppd for ~30 days. You get 1.5 million credit. Just an example... If a VGA is a prize it needs to end up in someone's hands who will BOINC with it. I think 30 days of 24/7 usage at 50k per day is pretty reasonable requirement to win a 2-3 hundred dollar graphics card. Or 75k ppd for 20 days total... Or 150k for ten days Still pretty reasonable IMO. Personally I would think it should be a bit higher, but that's me.



Now, If I had continued Boincing on only my 4870 for 6 months, assuming 75k ppd. I would have 13 mil. Based on this, 1.5 mil seems pretty doable. Heck, even 5 mil would be pretty reasonable IMO


@Hijacker and PR:
You both have the hardware to pull 10 mil credit in less than a week. So if you don't want to run certain projects, just run high ppd projects until you break the threshold, then change to project of choice. That way you only really run what you want and you have still qualified for the prize.
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But that's why the prize tiers already have a minimum number of points for the BGB. If they did away with the points tiers and just said 25mil total for the higher value prizes or whatever number of BGBs or having donated a prize of that value, I could agree with that as well.

They say every point helps but then the lower producers get left out. Personally, the whole points tiers it kinda takes the fun out of it. For a open event, I'd rather see the prizes be open for all who help out the team, but that's just my opinion.
Over in the Folding forum, all prizes are open for all who fold for the team during the monthly FATs, and all special events where prizes are drawn. Then there's the OCN sponsored monthly draw which is tiered or other OCN sponsored prizes for events that require extra dedication to the team like the referral system or team competition; they same could be done here for the higher value prizes.


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Lets assume that we cannot accurately determine a given users dedication to BOINC. In lieu of quantifiable "dedication" it only makes sense to assign a numerical value as a metric to gauge each candidates eligibility. In this situation it will most likely end up being either total BOINC credit and/or past BGB participation. There is not much else to use.

As for what the respective amounts of credit should be per prize tier... I am not certain. I am thinking something formulaic may make the most sense. Assume a "dedicated" boincer would average 50k ppd (i was pulling almost double this on a 4870, so i think this is pretty reasonable) and extrapolate that 50k ppd for ~30 days. You get 1.5 million credit. Just an example... If a VGA is a prize it needs to end up in someone's hands who will BOINC with it. I think 30 days of 24/7 usage at 50k per day is pretty reasonable requirement to win a 2-3 hundred dollar graphics card. Or 75k ppd for 20 days total... Or 150k for ten days Still pretty reasonable IMO. Personally I would think it should be a bit higher, but that's me.

Now, If I had continued Boincing on only my 4870 for this duration, assuming 75k ppd. I would have 13 mil. Based on this, 1.5 mil seems pretty doable. Heck, even 5 mil would be pretty reasonable IMO


@Hijacker and PR:
You both have the hardware to pull 10 mil credit in less than a week. So if you don't want to run certain projects, just run high ppd projects until you break the threshold, then change to project of choice. That way you only really run what you want and you have still qualified for the prize.

I agree.
That second bit says dedication more than just 25mil. As I said above (I think someone also mentioned earlier) but higher value prizes ($200+) could also be reserved for those who go the extra mile and get others to join in on the BGBs/team through a referral system like we have over in the folding forum; hardware could also carry a past BGB requirement in addition to referrals.

Having the hardware, and being able to run the hardware are different things tho tongue.gif
I do have two 580s, a 7970, possibly another 7970 and I'm in the process of putting together a dedicated box for boinc, all of which would hopefully be in my hands and ready for the Pentathlon biggrin.gif; so yes, getting the points isn't much of an issue personally.
 
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Lets assume that we cannot accurately determine a given users dedication to BOINC. In lieu of quantifiable "dedication" it only makes sense to assign a numerical value as a metric to gauge each candidates eligibility. In this situation it will most likely end up being either total BOINC credit and/or past BGB participation. There is not much else to use.

As for what the respective amounts of credit should be per prize tier... I am not certain. I am thinking something formulaic may make the most sense. Assume a "dedicated" boincer would average 50k ppd (i was pulling almost double this on a 4870, so i think this is pretty reasonable) and extrapolate that 50k ppd for ~30 days. You get 1.5 million credit. Just an example... If a VGA is a prize it needs to end up in someone's hands who will BOINC with it. I think 30 days of 24/7 usage at 50k per day is pretty reasonable requirement to win a 2-3 hundred dollar graphics card. Or 75k ppd for 20 days total... Or 150k for ten days Still pretty reasonable IMO. Personally I would think it should be a bit higher, but that's me.


Side note: I have been boincing for longer than 6 months. And the first 2-4 months my ppd was much lower than 1 mil (about 80k in fact).
My current credit = 264 mil and I will assume an average ppd of 1.5 mil, despite it being much lower in the beginning, and higher now.

264mil/1.5 mil ppd = 174 days, ~6 months of 24/7 BOINCing at 1.5 mil ppd.

Now, If I had continued Boincing on only my 4870 for this duration, assuming 75k ppd. I would have 13 mil. Based on this, 1.5 mil seems pretty doable. Heck, even 5 mil would be pretty reasonable IMO


@Hijacker and PR:
You both have the hardware to pull 10 mil credit in less than a week. So if you don't want to run certain projects, just run high ppd projects until you break the threshold, then change to project of choice. That way you only really run what you want and you have still qualified for the prize.

Wow. I'm glad I read that haha. I'm all for a PPD requirement and without a doubt I have the capability of producing around 10 million a week, the problem is my computer can't handle it for whatever reason. But don't worry, I'm not complaining haha. I'll crunch the hell out of my computer for the BGB events without a doubt. I'm starting to be able to manage my DiRT temps anyways lol. I just think in general its a tough thing to define dedication, and without a doubt you are correct. In these situations we can only apply a number to it and move on.

I also feel as though the prize tiers should be higher, but I don't wanna drown everyone out even if they have the ability to produce some awesome PPD but can't run for power/heat/whatever reasons. That's kinda the situation I'm in right now (not power, but heat.... way too much heat from nearly all GPU projects lol).


@PR-Imagery
As for the referrals being linked to higher up prizes, not that I dislike the idea (I actually think it's great), I just feel as though it'd be a bit difficult. If you think about it, we don't have that many new members each BGB to begin with and the ones that we do have are generally referred by the higher up PPD crunchers (no offense to anyone at all. Just stating what I've noticed) so wouldn't that largely restrict the people the hardware is distributed to? And also, this would also require you to know other people on the forum or even real life who would be willing to start crunching and then would the dedication stuff have to apply to them as well? If they were to crunch for 2 days then never again, is it really a referral? haha

Just trying to spur some discussion. I find all of this very interesting biggrin.gif
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post #39 of 71
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I agree with PR and hijacker in that there is no way to properly measure every member's dedication to the team, as everyone likes different projects. We still need to standarize a measurement, because looking in a case-per-case basis would be too long.

Though i also agree with Biorganic. With my 7950+7970 (i dedicate my CPU's for folding unless there is a BGB), i pull over 1m pts daily, and i only run my rigs for 8-10 hours a day.

Most of the active members of the team can reach 10m pretty easily, just dedicate yourself to a high-output project for a month (more or less) to break that barrier. If i could do it with an i3 and 2 GTS 450's (that setup took me to ~20m in 2-3 months), you can do it with an i5/i7 and better GPU's. (2 cheapo GTX 470's took me to almost 100m in 8-10 months)
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In a perfect world, there would be an easy way to determine everyone's 'dedication', but doing this in reality will take too much time, so that's why we go with a minimum credits for each prize range and add on a certain # of BGBs for the higher prizes.

I've been crunching before Overclock.net BOINC Team became a thing, and I'm still not at 30 million, mainly because I don't crunch the high credits projects all the time.

The referrals question is another one of interest. No, you can not refer yourself. I see quite a few occurrences of it every month and it is always deleted.... I would like to have it as only new members, but as it has been pointed out, we don't get many new crunchers every month registering on the spreadsheet. It has been working so far, so I don't feel a need to change it, but I'm open to discussion about it.
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