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Hi Guys.

Up until now i have been happy with air cooling and have not seen a use for a custom watercooling loop, however after adding my second graphics card in SLI the noise and tempertures are really starting to bug me.

I currently have a H100 on my CPU and Direct cu ii coolers on both GPUs.

Temps are as follows:

i5 3570k @ 4.5ghz 1.280v max temp 79c

GPU 1: Idle 28c, 78c load
GPU 2: Idle 26c, 60c load







I'm looking to cool my GPU's and CPU with a water cooling solution.

What parts do i need? What will fit into my 600t case? What sort of temperatures would i get on water? Will it be a big difference?

The supplier i will use is www.specialtech.co.uk or www.scan.co.uk if anyone can suggest parts for me.

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the 600T is a difficult case to water cool in, ESPECIALLY a cpu and 2 gpus.

the best way to cool those would be to get a 200mm Rad in the front and an alphacool UT60 in the top, that should be enough to get you good overclocks, bring the noise way down and keep temps in check.

so you need water blocks, people go kinda crazy over what block to choose, but in reality, the best block and the worst block on the market perform very similar to each other, within about 5 degrees of each other, so get a block that you like the look of and that is in your price range. This is true for both the gpu and cpu blocks ( im going to get flamed for this but whatever, its true ).

you need a res and a pump. optiacal bay res with attached pumps are growing in popularity, but i like the swiftech micro res and the MCP655 vari control pump, cant go wrong with those!


Ive put together 3 full loops, and everything for those loops ive bought used on the OCN cooling market place. its a great way to save a bunch of money, especially on blocks, rads, pumps and a res! plus you inject money into the OCN economy! everyone is happy!
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the 600T is a difficult case to water cool in, ESPECIALLY a cpu and 2 gpus.

the best way to cool those would be to get a 200mm Rad in the front and an alphacool UT60 in the top, that should be enough to get you good overclocks, bring the noise way down and keep temps in check.

so you need water blocks, people go kinda crazy over what block to choose, but in reality, the best block and the worst block on the market perform very similar to each other, within about 5 degrees of each other, so get a block that you like the look of and that is in your price range. This is true for both the gpu and cpu blocks ( im going to get flamed for this but whatever, its true ).

you need a res and a pump. optiacal bay res with attached pumps are growing in popularity, but i like the swiftech micro res and the MCP655 vari control pump, cant go wrong with those!

I think its even less than that Sean,its 2-4c between them,depending who you ask...thumb.gif

D5 is my choice of pump but i prefer tube res over bays,bays are nice but they can be a pig to bleed and sometimes suffer with noise isolation.

Watercool/Aquacomputer have the best performing block for GPUs consistently.
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Thanks mate. So looking at around £120 for radiators, £180 for GPU blocks (i need the Direct CU II GTX 670 versions i believe for my cards) and whatever else for the pump res, fittings and CPU block...its going to cost quite a lot!
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Thanks mate. So looking at around £120 for radiators, £180 for GPU blocks (i need the Direct CU II GTX 670 versions i believe for my cards) and whatever else for the pump res, fittings and CPU block...its going to cost quite a lot!

It does for the initial buy but as most of the parts will be transferable and long lived,it kind of pays for itself...(it doesnt but thats what i like to tell myself)

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Its not cheap. 9/10 times i tell people not to water cool their current ( often outdated ) hardware. because 9 of those 10 times, they will get better performance by selling the hardware they have and using the money they were going to use to upgrade their hardware. that will ALWAYS give you better performance than water cooling old gen tech. For example, before i got my 690, i had a 680 and i didnt think it was worth water cooling. i finnnaly decided that my 690 was worth water cooling and bought a block for it, i will be water cooling it as soon as my Arc Midi R2 comes. i personally wouldnt water cool a single 680...

you fall just barley in the 1/10 times where water cooling is a viable option. you have decent hardware, a nice case with good air flow and a reason ( unacceptable sound levels on air). The thorn in the side of water cooling your setup is that you have 2 cards to water cool. Water cooling one card is one thing, water cooling 2 cards is a whole different ball game. first of all you need 2 blocks, so its more expensive, plumbing 2 cards can be a PITA and if you ever need to take one of the cards out for any reason, its a nightmare. The only thing more difficult and nerve racking than filling a loop, is draining one.
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haha yes i guess it is an investment and im sure its one of those things, once you have you will never go back! Not sure its worth the £400 odd though?
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Its not cheap. 9/10 times i tell people not to water cool their current ( often outdated ) hardware. because 9 of those 10 times, they will get better performance by selling the hardware they have and using the money they were going to use to upgrade their hardware. that will ALWAYS give you better performance than water cooling old gen tech. For example, before i got my 690, i had a 680 and i didnt think it was worth water cooling. i finnnaly decided that my 690 was worth water cooling and bought a block for it, i will be water cooling it as soon as my Arc Midi R2 comes. i personally wouldnt water cool a single 680...

you fall just barley in the 1/10 times where water cooling is a viable option. you have decent hardware, a nice case with good air flow and a reason ( unacceptable sound levels on air). The thorn in the side of water cooling your setup is that you have 2 cards to water cool. Water cooling one card is one thing, water cooling 2 cards is a whole different ball game. first of all you need 2 blocks, so its more expensive, plumbing 2 cards can be a PITA and if you ever need to take one of the cards out for any reason, its a nightmare. The only thing more difficult and nerve racking than filling a loop, is draining one.

Yeah temps were an issue as soon as i added my second graphics card. I really wanted SLI though and performance is really good. Its not exactly LOUD but it is annoying hearing the fans blasting at 100% to try and keep the top card cool. The bottom one laughs at less than 60c most of the time. Its the top card i get worried about. With a very mild overclock (+50mhz core) it can reach up to 78c on a normal day, i dread to think what it would be like in the summer. I only just got my second GTX 670. Maybe high 70's isn't too bad for a GTX 670 and i could make a less agressive fan curve to make things a little quieter. I just worry as the gtx 670 throttles at 72c implying thats too hot for the card and i should be getting lower temps
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thats something only you can decide wink.gif
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The only part of the loop where you would 'lose' money is the GPU blocks,if you are in the habit of GPU changes yearly then perhaps uni blocks would be a better purchase.
The performance aspect is one part of it but,lets face it,its looks that is the reason most do it. As for older hardware not being worth it,its often the older hardware who needs it most.
As Sean has already mentioned,you need to decide whether the money wouldn't be better spent elsewhere,watercooling should be last on the list of upgrades,it doesn't make the rig faster or quieter.
I don't entirely agree with 2 cards being any different to one in any way other than cost,it still requires draining the loop and that is not an issue.
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