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How about a spelling lesson for you first?

Seriously though, Intel learned its lesson about focusing on clock speed above everything else (i.e. NetBurst). AMD still hasn't learned that throwing more cores and MHz into their substandard designs without having any decent IPC is a losing strategy.
I'd call it a different design , one who's strengths can put it at a place that only the most expensive Intel offerings can out perform it. While at the same time it has weaknesses that make it a poor choice for some user's depending what they need or want it to do- even when compared to cheaper alternatives from the competition.
Never has there been a chip with such a dichotomy of attributes, great at some things , disappointing at others. Definitely a source of spirited debate.
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Intel reps have said that Haswell will be the best overclocking chip ever released. I see the 4770k hitting 5.2+ghz
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post #63 of 85
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Intel reps have said that Haswell will be the best overclocking chip ever released. I see the 4770k hitting 5.2+ghz

As much as I like Intel, I'll believe it when I see it. As a wise man once said, "Trust, but verify".
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post #64 of 85
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As much as I like Intel, I'll believe it when I see it. As a wise man once said, "Trust, but verify".

And as a commoner once said (me), "Screw it, I'm buying it anyhow. biggrin.gif
Edited by Kinaesthetic - 3/21/13 at 6:52pm
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I thought there might be some sensible discussion here but I should have known better, shame.

OP you need to decide whether the added cost of the Intel machine is worth it or not. If it is get that, if it's not get the 8350, it's as simple as that.
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Yeah I know that biggrin.gif . I just wanted to hear some opinions from ppl who know more than CPUs than I do smile.gif.
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It varies from a game to a game, from a program to program and you don't know much don't you?!?...

Intel's processors after mega flop called Pentium 4 are based around Core 2 Duo that was derived from Pentium 3 architecture, Intel is just shrinking C2D and rarely do some tweaks to improve the architecture. They do tweaks when their C2D architecture hits the brick wall and they intentionally just give 10% of performance per generation and most games are optimized for Intel's processors since in most personal computers there are Intel processors and because Intel is basically shrinking down their C2D so programmers already know what to expect from it...

So Intel did little to invest in R&D, they are just slacking off and doing nothing after they decided to sabotage AMD because their Pentium 4 was a massive flop that is far worse than Bulldozer "flop". Intel bribed and forced OEM's like Dell, HP, Toshiba and offering to shops special rebates if they delay or cancel batch of AMD's processors that really blow Intel's Pentium 4 out of the water. AMD was rising and Intel in period of 2002 to 2007 did all those things that broke antitrust laws, AMD was a rising star and they had 20+ percent of CPU market and they got really demolished by Intel's dirty tricks that damage it so much that all money they got from settlements. The only good thing that they got that they can go produce x86 without their own fabrication factories...

AMD made most powerful and cheap processors compared to Intel, now they aren't the most powerful nor most efficient but they are still cheaper price for performance ratio.

AMD's Bulldozer was a brand new architecture and radically different compared to STAR's architecture/specification so of course Bulldozer was a flop but not as large flop compared to Pentium 4 mega flop. Piledriver is a tweaked Bulldozer, they actually could have done before but sadly they rushed if they din't and delayed a bit they could beat Sandy and compete with Ivy Bridge right from the release that was in Q4 2013 but they have made a mistake...

Piledriver is what Bulldozer was suppose to be, if that happened then Steamroller would be Piledriver...

Anyway Steamroller will be out in fourth Q4 2013, it will be 28nm with some tweaks and improvements and there are 3 possible outcomes:
- 20% improvement's and lower power consumption(likely)
- 30% improvements same TDP(possible)
- 10% improvements, vastly lower power consumption(unlikely)

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There is no need to be mean to him guys. Actually even if he got a ban from Anandtech this has nothing to do with Overclock.net .
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Edited by HeadlessKnight - 3/22/13 at 1:22am
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post #68 of 85
Get the 3770k its a much more superior chip to anything AMD has. Yes it is 100$ or so more because its far better then the 8350. If we were talking about a GPU i would say get AMD because most of their cards are on par money wise with Nvidias and they perform better.
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OP the decision is yours. If you are a real big SCII fan, then get the intel chip. Or if you have the money and need for 3770K then get it. The 8350 is close enough to the 3770K, but if you have the money and need just go for the 3770K, simple enough thumb.gif
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There is no need to be mean to him guys. Actually even if he got a ban from Anandtech this has nothing to do with Overclock.net .
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Actually, since he's posting on this forum the exact same screeds full of half-truths, distortions, and outright lies that got him banned from Anandtech, it does have to do with Overclock.net.
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