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[semi-Build Log] Impractible ITX (CM 120 Adv)

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I've been having fun going to smaller and smaller cases. Finally wanted to try ITX (light gamer / photo machine). I've seen a lot of prodigies & silverstones, so I wanted to try something different.

General concept: take the small footprint of the CM 120 and use an external rad help with it's normal heat build up (again, I am calling it Impractible)


Main component list
CPU: Intel i5 2500K
MB: ASUS P8Z77-I Deluxe
RAM: 16GB 1600mhz Corsair Vengeance LP
GPU: MSI 7950 (on 7970 pcb)
SSD: 256GB Crucial M4 (OS) + 128GB Crucial M4 (Steam)
HDD: Seagate 3TB storage drive
PSU: Seasonic 750W PSU, Fully modular
CASE: Cooler Master 120 Adv.


Water-loop
CPU Block: Apogee Drive 2
GPU BLOCK: XSPC Raystorm (7970 version, new rev) - looking at
RAD: MCR320-QP Res R2 triple 120mm Radiator
FANS: 6x Swiftech Helix PWM fans w/ 8 way PWM controller
PUMP: MCP35X (pwm, on apogee)
RES: (built in, but looked at micro res)
FITTINGS: 1/2 Swiftech Lok-seal compression fittings
TUBING: undetermined - ideas?

Ideas / plans:
-> try an "external loop" using an H60 to see how temps fair (DONE! & work well - pics coming)
-> mod case to make a little more personable & deal with noise (in progress)
-> devise some external mount for rad
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Here is the first, rough external mount:



With H60 mounted


Cabling is going to be a nightmare.

Up and running (albeit pwr supply not mounted)
IDLE: 38C in a 23C room LOAD (no OC): 41C -> sounds good! Can't wait to see what I can do with the triple rad. This CPU has broken 5GHZ before (not going that crazy though)



I think I'll push tubing back through the rear slotted grate at the back of the case (cut holes)
Do you think I can get away with just running tubing lines out or should I use something like the XSPC bulkhead fittings? http://shop.xs-pc.com/xsp/XSPC-G14-to-G14-Bulkhead-Black-Chrome_25479.html

If I use the bulkhead / pass-through, should I use a swivel fitting on the outside?
Edited by beldecca - 3/19/13 at 9:48am
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Cut off old feet:



New screws & feet (looking for sound dampen more than looks - but need better screws)


Now, the problem comes with what to do the front:
- > spray paint (but it's an odd shape, worried about drips & runs)
- > can't really powder coat as it's plastic - maybe vinyl?
-> thought of pulling front brushed alum and filling / sanding
-> or perhaps cut a air hole front


Plans:
-> cut window for GPU side (if I go with GPU waterblock)
-> with window, wrap pwr supply in vinyl for color (either Asus blue or white to match fans) - which one?
-> place alum mesh / filter on opposite side
Edited by beldecca - 3/19/13 at 9:57am
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Place holder for updates & pics (3 of 3)
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Trying to decide between blue or black tubing - think I might lean a little more towards opaque black just in case the fluid fogs / plasticizer issues.
MB is blue, as is the apogee block, but many parts are black.


Still love to hear any thoughts for what to do with case face.
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Almost all WC parts in. Waiting for the GPU block. Might get loop together over the weekend.
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Does Seasonic sell short cable sets? Would really help out with a build like this. Cable management is gonna suck.
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Does Seasonic sell short cable sets? Would really help out with a build like this. Cable management is gonna suck.

Cable management is already bad. Seasonic doesn't make a short cable set. When I finally piece it together, I'm trying to decide if I want to make a custom set or pick up a a strider with short cables. Love the seasonic though (nice that at idle it shuts fan off entirely).

Really busy work week (gotta love HW/Easter) Still, some parts are in.

Those screws to change the LED plate are damnably small!

And my only complaint so far are these:

White connectors? Come on Swiftech! Oh well.

Also, for a we bit of cooling:


And to keep GPU temps in line:


Going with black 1/2x3/4 tubing.

Only real change in though so far is the PWM splitter & the Asus board.
Turns out that PWM items connected to the CPU fan can be dropped to 20% but PWM on the case fan header can only be dropped to 40% (any guesses why they did this?)
So originally, I was going to hook the apogee drive to CPU header and 8 fans to the PWM splitter (6x rad, 2x case).
Now I'm trying to decide becasuse I was hoping to drop the fans as low as possible on idle / surfing:
Pump on case fan header? (not as safe . . . ) and all the fans on CPU header.
Spits the fans: 6x fans + pump on CPU & 2 case fans to case header. (likely safer for Pump fail warning, but actually will add some more cabling problems too)

Thoughts?
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post #9 of 12
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Looks like loop is going to go like this:

Pump / CPU -> Rad/Res -> GPU -> GPU -> Pump/CPU

I wish the CPU wasn't getting the heat directly from GPU, but from what I read it shouldn't make more than a few degrees temp difference once temps normalize.

The problem is, with 3/4 tubing (I might regret that) and such a small case, the bends only go in just so many ways.
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Sub'd. Need some ideas for my CM120. biggrin.gif
    
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AMD RyZen 1700  ASUS ROG Crosshair VI Hero EVGA GTX 1080 FE Crucial Ballistix ELITE DDR4-3200 4GB x 4  
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 950 Pro 512GB PCIe/NVME SSD Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD Swiftech H240-X2 Prestige Win10 Pro X64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Qnix QX2710LED @ 110hz Nixeus Moda Pro Mech w/Khail Browns EVGA P2 750 w/ CableMod Custom Cableset Fractal Design Define C 
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Nixeus Revel  Sanyo Soundbar FWSB405F 
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