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The fx-6300 option is the best suggested so far. Keep in mind that you'd want to upgrade in the future (second stick of ram). The real problem is that there aren't any good options at that price range. You can get an Intel dual-core & 8gb of RAM in budget pretty easily, which is actually not a bad choice at all if you're looking for just a good competent gaming setup. You can get the older AMD cpus (fx-4100 as recommended on first page), which is kind of a bad option. You can get that fx-6300 option, which is decent.

Looking at the Overclock Marketplace, I didn't see anything too enticing. BUT: if you can bargain this guy down from $250 to $200, you'd be in nice shape with old but still really effective tech:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1368746/fs-asus-p6x58d-premium-motherboard-i7-920-d0-stepping-6gb-ocz-1600mhz-gold-memory-sold

You'd be at quad instead of dual core which is nice for a variety of reasons despite the older tech vs the Intel dual-core option. Vs the AMD options you'll have roughly equal gaming performance after overclocks & not need to get a second RAM stick. You would need to get a CPU cooler if you can't re-use your old one though, which could bring that (even if bargained down), to roughly the price level of the fx-6300 system. Which is about right. An i7-920 and an fx-6300 will perform about the same (for gaming purposes at least) if both are overclocked.
    
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The fx-6300 option is the best suggested so far. Keep in mind that you'd want to upgrade in the future (second stick of ram). The real problem is that there aren't any good options at that price range. You can get an Intel dual-core & 8gb of RAM in budget pretty easily, which is actually not a bad choice at all if you're looking for just a good competent gaming setup. You can get the older AMD cpus (fx-4100 as recommended on first page), which is kind of a bad option. You can get that fx-6300 option, which is decent.

Looking at the Overclock Marketplace, I didn't see anything too enticing. BUT: if you can bargain this guy down from $250 to $200, you'd be in nice shape with old but still really effective tech:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1368746/fs-asus-p6x58d-premium-motherboard-i7-920-d0-stepping-6gb-ocz-1600mhz-gold-memory-sold

You'd be at quad instead of dual core which is nice for a variety of reasons despite the older tech vs the Intel dual-core option. Vs the AMD options you'll have roughly equal gaming performance after overclocks & not need to get a second RAM stick. You would need to get a CPU cooler if you can't re-use your old one though, which could bring that (even if bargained down), to roughly the price level of the fx-6300 system. Which is about right. An i7-920 and an fx-6300 will perform about the same (for gaming purposes at least) if both are overclocked.

Thanks for the information. Thinking about it, doesn't it make more sense to purchase an FM2 system over an AM3+ system strictly for future proofing? I mean I know he can get a much stronger AM3+ system (fx-6300) but is it worth it? I haven't looked into AMD systems for a long time so I could be completely wrong here. Maybe you can update me on current AMD technology?
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"Future proofing" Not.
You still have SR after PD anyway, on the same socket.
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"Future proofing" Not.
You still have SR after PD anyway, on the same socket.

Are you saying AM3+ is just as "future proofed" as FM2?
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Are you saying AM3+ is just as "future proofed" as FM2?

"future-proofing" is fancy, confusing code for one of two things:

1) paying extra to buy a feature useless to you now in the hopes it will be useful in the future (I just knowwwww all the games released next year will use eight cores! or: I hear with a bios revision Lucid Virtu will actually be really useful!)

1a) A subset of #1: paying through the nose for minuscule improvements in performance on the theory that you won't feel the need to upgrade again as soon.

2) buying a motherboard in the hopes you will re-use it when you buy another CPU later, theoretically reducing upgrade cost

FM2 is going to be useful for the AMD's next version of the APUs & Athlons**
AM3+ is going to be useful for AMD's next version of fx-processors

So neither platform option you're considering has an advantage in terms of #2. #1 doesn't apply. But regardless, in the vast majority of situations "future-proofing" is just buying useless **** for dumb reasons. Get the best you can get now & don't get something crappy on the theory that "maybe one day..."

**Athlons are currently just an APU without integrated graphics.
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Are you saying AM3+ is just as "future proofed" as FM2?
Could be. But not as much. Both platforms are going to get Steamroller but nothing is to be said about Excavator yet. We don't know if they will keep compatibility on FM2 to FM3 or not
But AM3+ is definitely needs to be done and gone wink.gif It heralded a era of fail but at least if it ends with SR being a good chip then it's going to go away with a wave of fanfare
Again, there is no such thing as future proofing.

Intel on the other hand is probably quite the worst. Although you don't have to upgrade chips every year to catch up with the new GPUs smile.gif
LGA1150 probably only for Haswell and Broadwell-D (Expected) and that's it and LGA1155 only spanned 1 arch, 2 gens and it's dead
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