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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-4770k-haswell-performance,3461.html

Looks like A10-5800k is faster than Haswell's GT2 iGPU.

Haswell's GT3 can be compared to a GT650M DDR3.

For laptops Haswell may be a improvement so far. Let's just hope faster DDR3 modules may find themselves to the mobile market. I think Haswell may find a success with DDR4's increased memory bandwidth.

So far I think the CPU side of Haswell is worthless. But let's not judge too early. I haven't seen AVX2 being used yet. Which might come in handy for PCSX2 for example. I think AVX2 is a real step forward.

 

I am skipping desktops in the future due to inferior TIM may be used.


Wat are you guys expecting of Haswell?

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all im expecting is slightly faster clock speeds with a quite a bit faster igpu

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We'll see soon biggrin.gif
Let's at least hope they've learned from the cheap TIM issue with the Ivy's. Would make delidding almost needed for overclockers and benchers.
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We'll see soon biggrin.gif
Let's at least hope they've learned from the cheap TIM issue with the Ivy's. Would make delidding almost needed for overclockers and benchers.

I thought they were soldering now....
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Meh, kinda hard to label it a failure just because AMD has a better iGPU. It boils down to overclocking potential for me.
    
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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-4770k-haswell-performance,3461.html


Looks like A10-5800k is faster than Haswell's GT2 iGPU.


Haswell's GT3 can be compared to a GT650M DDR3.


For laptops Haswell may be a improvement so far. Let's just hope faster DDR3 modules may find themselves to the mobile market. I think Haswell may find a success with DDR4's increased memory bandwidth.


So far I think the CPU side of Haswell is worthless. But let's not judge too early. I haven't seen AVX2 being used yet. Which might come in handy for PCSX2 for example. I think AVX2 is a real step forward.

I am skipping desktops in the future due to inferior TIM may be used.


Wat are you guys expecting of Haswell?

why are u judging a AMD Radeon HD 7660D to a integrated intel graphics card?

if somehow intel joins with nvidia and throws in a gtx650M the power/heat would be huge and not to mention the price tag.

i think intel has came a long way. the HD4000 wasnt mind blowing but im just hoping the HD5000 will be.
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@Tsar: pretty sure that was with sandy bridge. The Ivy Bridge runs cool, until a certain temperature. After that the temps will skyrocket. Turned out they used cheap TIM under the IHS instead of soldering.
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post #8 of 65
I wouldn't think it would be a failure. It's still going to be the fastest CPU in the world when it comes out, unless AMD pulls off a miracle with Steamroller. I expect them to close the gap a little more, but they won't catch up.

As far as the Intel IGP goes, Haswell looks like they've moved up from putrid performance to merely bad. Thing is, for most consumer-class desktops and even laptops, that's going to be good enough. I think the only reason they bother improving it is so they can keep Apple from switching to AMD's APU's, like they nearly did last time around. If Intel was serious about performance graphics, they'd buy Nvidia and get on with it.
     
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I was in an Intel partner webinar for haswell a couple weeks back and they were really harping on improved igpu, more on the mobile side than desktop sku's if I remember correctly. From a mobile standpoint, if you really want something of any power, why not just get a SB/IB/HW cpu with a dedicated card? I don't get all the fuss about iGPU power. HD 3000 & 4000 graphics are more than capable of anything other than gaming. There is a reason AMD APU's are better iGPU's and weaker CPU's. They simply dedicate more of the die for GPU and Intel dedicates more of the die for the CPU. It's that simple. I would not be suprised to see TIM being used again on HW. I could not get a straight answer on if they were going to solder again.
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It'll be a failure but I'll still buy it if it has at least a 20% improvement on SB.
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