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Originally Posted by HaunteR View Post

I'm not Forum modding, I just can't buy them because it's CA only and that should 100% be in the title.

No idea what you're talking about at all. O.o

I never see USA only in titles... learn to live with it. I've been disappointed by USA only deals quite likely about 100 times if not more. I'm sure the random CA only deal wont hurt ya tongue.gif

Decent price and timings, but @1.65v I'm a little iffy. I'm getting higher freq with tighter timings on 1.5v now... But def better than these crap 1333 CL8/9 and 1600 CL9 kits I see on "sale" all the time. And as posted before, with ram prices looking to rise, its not bad at all.
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the OP did mention they overclock. timing and frequency. not like the current stuff
that you have to loosen the timing to get more MHz. PSC does both.

any americans that use the metric system want to be friends with somebody that has
fry's and microcenter. I would be pissed always seeing those damn things pop up on
the deal sites.

nice deal on nice ram.
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Originally Posted by Heuchler View Post

Memory Express Canada only (think they had the D14 for dirt cheap a few times).
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Cleaned this up guys. Let's keep it to a professional level and keep the name calling out of it. There is no need for extra emoticons or bashing on each other. If you are not a fan of this deal, simply do not post, if you are thankful for his finding, let him know. There are ALWAYS ways to get better deals, he is just sharing a Newegg deal like everyone else does. Some of them are really hot deals, while other ones just fall by the wayside. Please keep discussions on topic and of good manner. Thanks![XiCynx]

from another thread. sucks that is canada only. but NCIX open offices here maybe Memory Express will do the same.
Newegg has gotten fat. pulling the out of stock when a deal goes viral on deal forums then a few hours later they have thousands more in stock at a nice at $20 more. Everything from Newegg emails get posted on deal sites. Belial pointed out that not ever item that newegg has a sale on [combo] is a great deal and the thread turned ugly.

so, it wasn't directed at you HaunteR.

That was because the guy kept posting terrible misinformation like best buy not carrying AMD chips (they carry just about every cpu and most computer components) or best buy not price matching (when it clearly says so on their web site), and then making really rude comments spammed with emoticons toward me.

$60 discount on this RAM is a huge deal, worth jumping hurdles to get from a friend in CA.
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I'm a bit ignorant, why are these so expensive for such regular latency?

It's not really regular latency. Just at stock settings, 1600mhz CL7 ram is pretty freaking fast. And it's literally cheaper than *any* other 2x2gb ram (newegg sells 2x2 for ~$22+, and that's with no name, no heatsink ram). It would be a deal even if it was micron d9 ram or some other terrible ram that can't be overclocked at all.

But the fact that it is THE best overclocking ram in the world, bar none, makes what's an awesome deal, to an insane deal. Now you can sometimes find PSCs for around $30+ on ebay, but that's used (granted mushkin and most ram companies honor used warranties so it doesn't matter if it's used).

Check this list out:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?280903-SuperPi32m-5Ghz-Ivy-All-Out-Challenge!

As you can see, the #1 spot, and the majority of the top spots on the highest ram overclocks and benches, is all PSC ram. The exact same type of RAM as the ram being sold for $20 on this site (well, maybe not exact exact, there's 3 types of PSCs and likely this is the medium or lowest binned one but they are all very similar, it's not a huge deal and I'm sure the PSCs used in this ram are more than a few of those top spots).

This is why buying 8gb of ram is stupid. Why buy 8gb of ram, when 4gb is all you'll ever use, and you can get literally the highest overclocking RAM in the world for basically the same price as the cheapest 2x2gb, or half the price of the worst 2x4gb of ram.

RAM overclocking makes a huge difference too, you really need over 2000mhz for a smooth stream if you are a streamer (hey, if you got a quadcore system, maybe even i5-3570k, why not stream all your gameplay). People say ram overclocks dont matter, but that's because they assume it's $100+ to get an extra 500mhz. If you can pay only $10-20, or in this case nothing extra, for 800mhz increased ram, yea, it makes a noticeable impact on your gameplay and streaming.
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Decent price and timings, but @1.65v I'm a little iffy. I'm getting higher freq with tighter timings on 1.5v now... But def better than these crap 1333 CL8/9 and 1600 CL9 kits I see on "sale" all the time. And as posted before, with ram prices looking to rise, its not bad at all.

PSC RAM is actually considered one of the best overclocking RAM specifically because it really doesn't need much voltage (relative to all the other rams, except micron d9 maybe but microns are the worst ram of all). 1.65v for 1600 CL7 is a pretty good speed, you could likely do 1600 CL8 on 1.5v, you could maybe even do 1866@1.5v.

And who cares, 1.5v, 1.65v? You realize that these ram companies will get a ram, sell it as 1600 CL9, and then sell the exact same RAM as 1866 CL9 1.65v and charge you more for it.

There's basically only 5 different types of RAM (and then a lot more sub-types, but 5 major ones, and they are all binned differently too). Doesn't matter what the manufacturer sells this ram, YOU know it's PSC so it's capable of at least 2400mhz on reasonable timings at only ~1.75v.

PSC is really nice for air overclocks because it really doesn't require much extra voltage to go far, I find there's pretty much a wall around 1.7-1.8v for practical 24/7 overclocks and going over that doesn't get you much more speed (or it may, but it won't be stable). That's why people sometimes say BBSE is the best ram, because well, on LN2, there's no problem pushing over 2v on DDR3 whereas PSC won't really react as much to more than 1.7v, depending on the binning.

But both PSC and BBSE are only sold in 2gb density sticks. And I'm pretty sure this RAM will give your ram a run for it's money (how much did you pay for that)? I'm running the same IC at 2400mhz CL8.

If you missed out on this sale because you live in the better country, I'm sure these things will be popping up all over ebay in no time and you can get them there for probably a fair price. If you check now before the deal is dead you may find them at just a slight mark-up only. Deals like this, newegg shell shockers, microcenter, the recent corsair psus being sold for so cheap, they go right to ebay because so many resellers will buy the stuff and think they can resell it at the retail price to people who don't have access to the deal or who just turn in the rebate themselves and cover the cost they paid.
Edited by Belial - 3/19/13 at 8:38pm
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post #14 of 22
I always feel bad for Belia when he offers people better options
like on the Best Buy in-store clearance deal on the H100 (10% off a
discontinued product that only was available in some areas - not a national
clearance). and it turns real ugly really fast. I don't understand why.
but like a crash on the freeway I do slow down and have a look while i pass.

DDR1 had winbond BH-5
DDR2 had crucial D9GMH
DDR3 has PSC IC

so what i learned from Belia is check eBay for PSC, don't talk bad about CM 212 (even
when it is an old design heatsink for C2D), don't mention carbon based TIM is cheaper
and works better than AS5 (except if you want to get flammed by AS5 fan boys...heck didn't know
they even existed before).

memory profiles are important for modern computers to boot. they got to have some timing/volt/freq.
this is only a deal if you overclock. a very hot deal if you overclock and don't want some of the new high density
crap ram. if you ever had to clear your cmos because you pushed your ram too much you will know about memory
profile, SPD, intel XMP. having the memory button on my new motherboard is really useful.


in my option some of deal post on this here are not as good as others. this is a hot deal.
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people hate it when you say you have something better, cheaper, than what they already bought. everyone wants to buy but no one wants to be sold.
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This is why buying 8gb of ram is stupid. Why buy 8gb of ram, when 4gb is all you'll ever use

4gb is pretty close to being not enough for running current operating systems and software. I use more than 4gb routinely both at work and home. The '640k' quote that people attribute to Gates seems applicable here, but he denies ever saying it, with a response "I've said some stupid things and some wrong things, but not that. No one involved in computers would ever say that a certain amount of memory is enough for all time." In my opinion, the time for 4gb has already come and gone.

That said, this is still a great deal.
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This is why buying 8gb of ram is stupid. Why buy 8gb of ram, when 4gb is all you'll ever use, and you can get literally the highest overclocking RAM in the world for basically the same price as the cheapest 2x2gb, or half the price of the worst 2x4gb of ram.

I was with you, for the most part, until that bit. I use more than 4 GB of RAM every single day both at home and at work. You'd have to be really anal about closing every application as you finish using it, IMO, to get away with 4 GB on anything but WinXP. Now I wouldn't make a broad statement like "8 GB is stupid, nobody needs it, 4 GB is the best after an overclock and you'll never need more," but I will say that I wouldn't recommend it to anyone building a new system.

Also agree. Amazing deal on sweet RAM, but don't get fooled into thinking that you'll be able to game/stream comfortably with 4GB unless you make it a chore to manage your memory.
 
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feel like it is happening again.

my current setup has 4 x1GB DDR2 D9GMH. never have run out of ram with any video game or
heavy multitasking. Got a great deal on Sabertooth 990FX so this deal was very interesting for me

the older low density performs much better than the new high density stuff. if you need more than 4GB
then you have to run the new stuff or maybe run 4x 2GB (would be nice in a quad channel system like x79)
but that really depends how good of an IMC you have.

Some people will need more than 4GB of ram. sure. I really don't. I would have picked up two kits because
they aren't making this stuff anymore. and i would see what my IMC can handle. also, helps with ocpd.
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This is why buying 8gb of ram is stupid. Why buy 8gb of ram, when 4gb is all you'll ever use

4gb is pretty close to being not enough for running current operating systems and software. I use more than 4gb routinely both at work and home. The '640k' quote that people attribute to Gates seems applicable here, but he denies ever saying it, with a response "I've said some stupid things and some wrong things, but not that. No one involved in computers would ever say that a certain amount of memory is enough for all time." In my opinion, the time for 4gb has already come and gone.

That said, this is still a great deal.

I had said for general usage/gaming, and if you have an 8gb system, your computer will use more ram based on percentage just because you have more available ram. The reason 4gb isn't necessary for general usage/gaming is because they are still written to be compatible with 32bit OS. You literally can't go over 4gb in gaming.
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Also agree. Amazing deal on sweet RAM, but don't get fooled into thinking that you'll be able to game/stream comfortably with 4GB unless you make it a chore to manage your memory.

Streaming doesn't use up RAM, so with gaming being to 32bit and less than 4gb you really aren't going to use more. I've used both 4gb and 8gb.
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I called in, online stock is all out, but one store in Calgary may have some.

I got the model number if anyone is interested:
996782 - 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800 7-9-7-24 Blackline

Unfortunately, I have the below, so it may be hard on my IMC to have 2 unmatching sets.... unless I buy two more sets.. hmm.
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