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[Ars] Cisco switches to weaker hashing scheme, passwords cracked wide open

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Password cracking experts have reversed a secret cryptographic formula recently added to Cisco devices. Ironically, the encryption type 4 algorithm leaves users considerably more susceptible to password cracking than an older alternative, even though the new routine was intended to enhance protections already in place.

It turns out that Cisco's new method for converting passwords into one-way hashes uses a single iteration of the SHA256 function with no cryptographic salt. The revelation came as a shock to many security experts because the technique requires little time and computing resources. As a result, relatively inexpensive computers used by crackers can try a dizzying number of guesses when attempting to guess the corresponding plain-text password. For instance, a system outfitted with two AMD Radeon 6990 graphics cards that run a soon-to-be-released version of the Hashcat password cracking program can cycle through more than 2.8 billion candidate passwords each second.

By contrast, the type 5 algorithm the new scheme was intended to replace used 1,000 iterations of the MD5 hash function. The large number of repetitions forces cracking programs to work more slowly and makes the process more costly to attackers. Even more important, the older function added randomly generated cryptographic "salt" to each password, preventing crackers from tackling large numbers of hashes at once.

Cisco switches to weaker hashing scheme, passwords cracked wide open


Another reason to not use Cisco routers anymore.
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why would they downgrade? trying to save a few $?
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post #3 of 52
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Cisco switches to weaker hashing scheme, passwords cracked wide open


Another reason to not use Cisco routers anymore.

LOL and use what? netgear? the world's internet runs on cisco
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LOL and use what? netgear? the world's internet runs on cisco

These days there are better solutions such as untangle. Cisco is a dying company.
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LOL and use what? netgear? the world's internet runs on cisco

There's Juniper, who make high end networking equipment for what looks to be the backbone of the internet, and high end datacenter networking equipment.

That stuff is way out of my league though.
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Cisco switches to weaker hashing scheme, passwords cracked wide open


Another reason to not use Cisco routers anymore.

Because no company in the history of networking has ever made a mistake. Ever.

This is sure to be fixed in short order.

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These days there are better solutions such as untangle. Cisco is a dying company.

No.

Untangle is a software solution. Cisco is not just IOS but hardware as well.

Also, any decent sized company that thinks Untangle is an adequate replacement to true Enterprise networking equipment deserves the breaches they're sure to get. Untangle is fine for SMB, but in the enterprise it's useless.
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There's Juniper, who make high end networking equipment for what looks to be the backbone of the internet, and high end datacenter networking equipment.

That stuff is way out of my league though.

Juniper is great, but the "backbone of the Internet" isn't quite such.

Juniper, Cisco, Checkpoint...it's all mashed up in there.
    
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Untangle is a software solution. Cisco is not just IOS but hardware as well.

Also, any decent sized company that thinks Untangle is an adequate replacement to true Enterprise networking equipment...

Umm...
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Cisco switches to weaker hashing scheme, passwords cracked wide open


Another reason to not use Cisco routers anymore.

Another? Where's the others??

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Originally Posted by Zero4549 View Post

These days there are better solutions such as untangle. Cisco is a dying company.

Um?
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There's Juniper, who make high end networking equipment for what looks to be the backbone of the internet, and high end datacenter networking equipment.

That stuff is way out of my league though.

I do like the Juniper stuff.
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Umm...

Untangle does not make their own hardware. They third-party the device configurations based on what software they need to run on it.


Regardless, Untangle can't hold a candle to Cisco, especially in enterprise environments.
    
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I use their hardware, but put Tomato or DDWRT on it for software.
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