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Why would a company like Cisco cheapen out on ENCRYPTION HASHES!?

It's like if AMD or nVIDIA switched to cardboard PCBs on their graphics cards, or suddenly started making wooden heatsinks!! It makes no sense!!

LMAO
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Why would a company like Cisco cheapen out on ENCRYPTION HASHES!?

It's like if AMD or nVIDIA switched to cardboard PCBs on their graphics cards, or suddenly started making wooden heatsinks!! It makes no sense!!

I think the poster above you has the one and only idea I can think of. I tried to think of other reasons but I can't as there's no logic in what they've done.

Funny post though. Cardboard PCB's and wooden heatsinks. It wouldn't surprise me if they've considered it.
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Had some fun teasing the resident CCIE at work about this today - I think he wanted to kill me biggrin.gif

And its rather funny to see the 2 cents from people that don't particularly know anything about Cisco products. They aren't just overpriced enthusiast toys like alienware PCs - they serve a purpose and as far as routing and switching goes, they do it well.
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And its rather funny to see the 2 cents from people that don't particularly know anything about Cisco products. They aren't just overpriced enthusiast toys like alienware PCs - they serve a purpose and as far as routing and switching goes, they do it well.

Not only they do it well, but they also have the most extensive and comprehensive documentation in the market. Cisco tech support is also top notch.
   
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I lol'd hard when I saw that someone suggested that companies start using "Untangled" as their enterprise gateway solution. YEA RIGHT!! Cisco makes up 60% of the hardware used on the backbone of the Internet. 60%! You think a large enterprise is going to just re-arrange their entire network infrastructure and start using open source solutions with no support or any kind of service contracts? Like a fleet of Linux enthusiasts are just going to go in there, build all their routers with off the shelf hardware and everything will be just like it was? HA!


Grow up kiddies. Cisco is FAR from a dying breed. They just bought Meraki. They're not going anywhere. If anything, Juniper, HP and Aruba might just now be giving Cisco some kind of competition in the switching department. But when it comes to gateway appliances, Cisco has that covered.
post #26 of 52
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Originally Posted by Artikbot View Post

Why would a company like Cisco cheapen out on ENCRYPTION HASHES!?

It's like if AMD or nVIDIA switched to cardboard PCBs on their graphics cards, or suddenly started making wooden heatsinks!! It makes no sense!!

Maybe Cisco's engineers thought their encryption was good enough, and didn't test it all the way through.

Or there were some office political BS that took place, which inadvertently allowed a bad system to be rolled out.
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LOL and use what? netgear? the world's internet runs on cisco

This... Netgear is a joke.
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These days there are better solutions such as untangle. Cisco is a dying company.

Agreed, we partner with Untangle and sell a box to our clients, very good suite thumb.gif

Free version works pretty well too. most of our clients are on premium for the IP Failover and WAN Balancer though
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but this is on brute force attempts. Every switch and router I set up I set a max attempts of three before password retry is locked up...heh, seen a few switches get reset and reconfigured just due to password lock out

I don't think brute force attacks are really much to be concerned about these days. Heck even OCN would probably lock my account if I failed my password more than five times or so.
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This... Netgear is a joke.

i use netgear, router i have runs great.
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