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I am starting my first water cooled build and would like a little advice on what to buy. To start with the system will contain a Pentium D 940 (stock 3.2 Ghz), which i am wanting to atempt to acheive a 5.0 Ghz overclock on! but this will eventually be upgraded to a C2D E6600 or if the price comes down (a lot!) a QX6700.
I would like sugestions on a large case to house my water cooled system that is good looking (with side window) and around £100 at the most.
The other products for the cooling system i am planning are -

1 Resevour
1 Pump
CPU, GPU & Chipset blocks
2 Radaters, (1 large, 1 smaller)
Fans for radiaters
Clear tubing
Blue UV coolant
And all attachments of course!

Can people sugest the best products at a reasonably low price to purchase for each of the above please.

The system will be as in my user spec but with the following modifications -

C2D E6600 or QX6700 (but doubt the QX for a while yet!
Asus P5B wi fi deluxe or Asus P5N32-E SLI NF680i
Geforce 8800 GTX ( Not sure on board manufacturer yet)
And more powerfull PSU not sure which yet

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I am starting my first water cooled build and would like a little advice on what to buy. To start with the system will contain a Pentium D 940 (stock 3.2 Ghz), which i am wanting to atempt to acheive a 5.0 Ghz overclock on! but this will eventually be upgraded to a C2D E6600 or if the price comes down (a lot!) a QX6700.
I would like sugestions on a large case to house my water cooled system that is good looking (with side window) and around £100 at the most.
The other products for the cooling system i am planning are -

1 Resevour
1 Pump
CPU, GPU & Chipset blocks
2 Radaters, (1 large, 1 smaller)
Fans for radiaters
Clear tubing
Blue UV coolant
And all attachments of course!

Can people sugest the best products at a reasonably low price to purchase for each of the above please.

The system will be as in my user spec but with the following modifications -

C2D E6600 or QX6700 (but doubt the QX for a while yet!
Asus P5B wi fi deluxe or Asus P5N32-E SLI NF680i
Geforce 8800 GTX ( Not sure on board manufacturer yet)
And more powerfull PSU not sure which yet

Thank you in advance,

Use only one good radiator. The second radiator won't provide any benefit and will just cost more + take up more space. Fans depend on the type of radiator you are using.... are you going for performance or silence? If performance, forget the chipset block. Cooling it yields no performance gains.

Generally, stick with Danger Den and Swiftech parts.

As for a case, get a CoolerMaster Stacker. They cost less than $100US and are very well suited for H20.
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www.dangerden.com

DD5 laing pump, w/ 1/2" nipp's
TDX cpu block w/ accelerator nozzles
5 1/4" bay, resevoir, w/ 2 inputs
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As for radiators...are you going to be modding them into your cpu case? If so, I would recommend getting a 120mm x 3 rad, as it will cut down on the tubing mess, and flow resistance.

*DangerDen usually runs a special to get the TDX and a D5 for around 100$. The D5 pump is one of the strongest there is hands down, w/ TONS of add-on features and tweaks. It can run 50psi through a 1/2" line, stock. If you buy the brass top for it, Laing specs say it will hold 150psi!! No Questions there...these pumps can run multiple cpu setups w/ no issues.
-> Also, look into picking up a plastic 1/2" 'T', this will allow you to seperate your GPU from your CPU, to supply them both w/ 'fresh' water. {Helps significantly lower the temps, because the units are not daisy-chained} The plastic resevoir that DD has, features two sets of inputs and one output, for setting up "dual-loop" configurations.

I purchased the above items along w/ a BIX 120.2 radiator from DD for a total of 182.00$.

-> Get some good fans too! You have to decide if you want a quiet library H20 setup, or a performance H20 setup though.....it can get loud.

good luck
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I was going to run The big rad after the cpu then the smaller one after the gpu and chipset. I want Nainly performance for big overclocks but quiet is fairly im portant as long as its not much louder than the average standerd home PC. Danger den and swiftech? they good quality and value? what about a large case rhat looks awesome for no more than about £100?
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Do you mean get 3 ( as in quantity) 120 mm rads?
Not sure where things are gonna go yet cos not chose a case!
    
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Originally Posted by CL3P20 View Post
www.dangerden.com

DD5 laing pump, w/ 1/2" nipp's
TDX cpu block w/ accelerator nozzles
5 1/4" bay, resevoir, w/ 2 inputs
------------------------------------

As for radiators...are you going to be modding them into your cpu case? If so, I would recommend getting a 120mm x 3 rad, as it will cut down on the tubing mess, and flow resistance.

*DangerDen usually runs a special to get the TDX and a D5 for around 100$. The D5 pump is one of the strongest there is hands down, w/ TONS of add-on features and tweaks. It can run 50psi through a 1/2" line, stock. If you buy the brass top for it, Laing specs say it will hold 150psi!! No Questions there...these pumps can run multiple cpu setups w/ no issues.
-> Also, look into picking up a plastic 1/2" 'T', this will allow you to seperate your GPU from your CPU, to supply them both w/ 'fresh' water. {Helps significantly lower the temps, because the units are not daisy-chained} The plastic resevoir that DD has, features two sets of inputs and one output, for setting up "dual-loop" configurations.

I purchased the above items along w/ a BIX 120.2 radiator from DD for a total of 182.00$.

-> Get some good fans too! You have to decide if you want a quiet library H20 setup, or a performance H20 setup though.....it can get loud.

good luck
Don't do the T-Line Daisy chain thing. Everything in series. There is no such thing as "fresh water". It is moving too fast and ALL of the water acts as one object. Has to do with a restriction thing as well.

He also means a 3x120mm radiator.... a single rad that can fit 3 120mm fans.

If you can't cut and mod a case, stick with the CM Stacker that I mentioned. It can mount a 2x120mm rad on the bottom of the case.

Again.... 1 loop = 1 radiator
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post #7 of 12
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got you with the rad thing! so defo only one rad but the 3x120mm is best idea?
And i am best to run the sydtem in series?
Wot about a case?

Thank you for your help guyd
    
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No not 3 rad's...a radiator that supports 3 x 120mm fans. Like this-> http://www.dangerdenstore.com/produc...&cat=85&page=1

It will allow you to run lower cfm fans, keeping things quiet, yet still have enough surface area to dissipate a fully 'water-cooled' system.

Also, cooling your NB, will not do you much good...and will definitly add more heat into your radiator. If you must do this, go for a dual loop setup.
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OK guys thank you very much!
REP for u 2!
    
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Don't do the T-Line Daisy chain thing. Everything in series. There is no such thing as "fresh water". It is moving too fast and ALL of the water acts as one object. Has to do with a restriction thing as well.
I got a 3c temp improvement on the GPU by adding the T into my system, and no mentionable flow loss. According to everyones theories on water temps, delta and flow rate....the T should have made temps worse....but they obviously didnt. Maybe the waters delta is kept more constant due to the fact it is split? I dunno...but it works for me!
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