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post #71 of 145
I saw a 2cm bezel on a 60" tv years ago. Why it is so damn hard for these stupid companies to make mm thick housing for a much smaller display is beyond me.

The first company to do a 27" with 1mm bezel at 2160p will have all my monies.
Edited by The-Beast - 3/21/13 at 12:44am
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I hate it break it to you, but VA panels have the same problems that TN panels do. Bad colors, Poor color accuracy and poor viewing angles..

On the other hand, VA has brutal contrast ratios (similar to AMOLED), and are the easiest panels on the eyes. I used a centuries old 17" NEC VA panel for a full month, working as an IT support techie, and I was completely blown away.

I had dual heads, a TN 17" Dell as a main monitor, and said NEC VA monitor. The NEC was SO much better to read from, that I swapped the positions and left the Dell only to check the mails and support tickets, using the NEC for everything else, even if it had ghosting, poor colors, and poor white point. The readability was so incredible that it far overweighted everything else for the job I was doing.

I'm not exaggerating when I say I kind of miss that NEC now that I'm reading back again from my IPS.
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As far as bezels go, remember guys that the LCD panel is held by the bezels. If you've ever disassembled one, the mounting screws are on them, and the manufacturer strongly warns that anything touching the panel on anywhere elese might cause panel malfunction and failure.

So bezels are quite needed. Also, the large LCD panels have an inherent 4mm bezel on them that holds the entire assembly together (as you know, any LCD panels except AMOLEDs are composed by an array or layers, not just one single part).

Still, no one beats my AIO's bezels!! Right at 5mm baby, the absolute minimum I could possibly get biggrin.gif
   
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I can understand the inclusion of speakers, but why even bother with crappy ones?
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I'm interested to see how this compares to the flat bezel IPS panels. Good black is the one thing these new IPS panels lack. If this has great black and a decent price I might get one as a secondary monitor to back my U2713hm. I like to have a 1080p as a backup for some games too. Another 2560x1440 just doesn't warrant the cost.
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Originally Posted by dtolios View Post

If you cannot afford a 27" 1440p monitor, then just don't get a 27" 1080p. Plain and simple.
Whoever disagrees either doesn't know better, or could just as-well buy a 1080p TV.

Working @ less than 36" viewing distance, which is already plenty for a desktop monitor as few desks allow for that, the pixel pitch is bad. Images look much worse than a 23-24" 1080p. PERIOD.
Plus 27" TNs are not that cheap to begin with, so you could get a much nicer 1080-1200p panel for that price.

It is a classic trap for those who believe "bigger must be better", and "forum-warrioring" in favor of it classifies you as such a person.

1440p advocates aren't necessarily elitists.
1080p + 27" advocates are simply stubborn, and occasionally ignorant of what they are talking about.

I do agree that a $600 monitor is not an investment ppl would take lightly - for a good reason. It is still a much much better investment than say $100+ PC cases, oversized coolers, oversized PSUs, overkill GPUs, 3930Ks for gaming that couldn't care less about more cores etc etc.

It offers something tangibly better, and will probably outlast all of the above investments, as it will be enjoyed day in, and day out in anything but movies (again should we compare resolution, as most likely the colors and DR is also better, so movies would look better also, despite being limited to 1080p themselves).

I agree with a lot of what you're saying. For me, it makes sense. However, your argument is specious and arrogant.

This is subjective. If bigger is indeed better for some, so be it. Who are you to tell them they're wrong? If they like what they see and enjoy what the product gives them, are they dumb? No, they are not. And for you to cast them in that light does in fact make you "elitist". I'm a proud member of the "PC Gaming Master Race" so I understand; but make no mistake, it is elitist.
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Every tried using glossy monitors next to windows during daytime?

Any color or contract superiority it may have over a matte screen goes out the window when you can use the monitor as a mirror for shaving.

The screen becomes mirror like only when its turned off. This is what I was afraid before I buy it but I found out that all the concerns on forums where not right because very few ppl tried it. I use the monitor even with my lights on and no reflections like some ppl said. Reflections are minor and the clarity you get blows every matte screen out of the water and in the garbage. Mac screens are also glossy and tablets smartphones too plus you use them outdoors but there you never compains about reflections although theu exist. Try a glossy monitor and you will the difference in quality of image. No matter how good a monitor is when you apply ag coating you distroy the clarity and colours. Glossy monitor can become a pain in the office for example when you have huge windows and sun lighting coming in. In your house you can control the lighting better (curtains, lights). I will never return to matte screen ever again.
Edited by Anarion - 3/21/13 at 8:21am
post #77 of 145
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Originally Posted by dtolios View Post

If you cannot afford a 27" 1440p monitor, then just don't get a 27" 1080p. Plain and simple.
Whoever disagrees either doesn't know better, or could just as-well buy a 1080p TV.
I'll agree
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It is a classic trap for those who believe "bigger must be better", and "forum-warrioring" in favor of it classifies you as such a person.
It is amazing at what people feel they MUST have.
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1440p advocates aren't necessarily elitists.
1080p + 27" advocates are simply stubborn, and occasionally ignorant of what they are talking about.
I suspect it's somewhere inbetween. I have a slight case of buyer's remorse for my 1440p monitor though. I love it but on the other hand after using it with my laptop via HDMI out at 1080p I don't feel like I am gaining a ton by going UP to 1440p with my new desktop. Maybe I'll feel it if I have to go down.
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I do agree that a $600 monitor is not an investment ppl would take lightly - for a good reason. It is still a much much better investment than say $100+ PC cases, oversized coolers, oversized PSUs, overkill GPUs, 3930Ks for gaming that couldn't care less about more cores etc etc.
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It offers something tangibly better, and will probably outlast all of the above investments, as it will be enjoyed day in, and day out in anything but movies (again should we compare resolution, as most likely the colors and DR is also better, so movies would look better also, despite being limited to 1080p themselves).

I'll definitely agree there. I've began focusing more on peripherals than on core components. My monitor($600), keyboard($80 used), mouse($30 from a friend new unopened) cooler($100) and case($60) together cost more than my core components($250 for CPU and board, $100 for ram, $300 for a card, $70 for PSU) and I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything performance wise. I'll probably buy all new core components within a year and sell what I have or donate them to my mother who's system is starting to get old. I know it's wasteful to constantly upgrade, but $400 isn't very much to me anymore and I save over half my income.
Edited by xlink - 3/21/13 at 1:27pm
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*Yawn* non-1440p 27 inch. rolleyes.gif
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On the other hand, VA has brutal contrast ratios (similar to AMOLED)
Define "brutal". In a dark room, does the mouse pointer appear floating in space when it's on top of a black image viewed in fullscreen?
 
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still too much bezel. either no bezel or go home
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