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isnt APU that supermarket owner from Simpsons? smile.gif

I liked ATI more ...

best
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Originally Posted by Hukkel View Post

This is just rebranded stuff. Not interested.

Corsair PSU???



Everyone talks like they know how everything in the market work. rolleyes.gif

I don't think AMD did a blind move without studies and researches of the actual market.

I think it's a great move of their part.

More competition people? Lower Prices?
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I'm not sure how I feel about this. I'm excited AMD is branching out, but at the same time I don't want them to go under completely because of this. I own shares and I'd rather not lose that money.
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A lot of "Memory Manufactures" buy their chips, but then they assemble the memory stick. That isn't re-branding. I mean that is like saying MSI re-brands all the GPUs they buy.

Global Foundries probably has the capability to start fabing memory ICs...maybe they already do make them. So AMD could start paying them to make chips and AMD could turn into a genuine memory manufacturer. However, with memory relatively cheap these days I think they'd be stupid not to just buy something that was complete from some other company and slap an AMD sticker on it.

However, I am pretty sure that AMD was making flash memory ICs a few years ago...maybe even regular memory too...but that part got sold off in like 2005 or something. So maybe they are bringing it back.

MSI don't rebrand but Corsair don't actively advertise whether they use Samsung, Kingston, Micron or any other chips. They also don't design their chips but buy them bulk however I do know what you mean.

AMD have advertised rebranded Asetek coolers with their own logo and sticker on them and I don't believe they can't muster the capability to design chips and have them manufactured.
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MSI don't rebrand but Corsair don't actively advertise whether they use Samsung, Kingston, Micron or any other chips. They also don't design their chips but buy them bulk however I do know what you mean.

AMD have advertised rebranded Asetek coolers with their own logo and sticker on them and I don't believe they can't muster the capability to design chips and have them manufactured.

Well the VRAM that MSI would use on their graphics cards would be a better example...it isn't re-branded; it is a component used in the manufacture of their product.

I don't think they could get this off the ground either, but that doesn't mean they might try it.
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post #76 of 104
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Corsair have a fab in which they make their own chips? If not you are using rebranded chips.

Rebranding is taking a completed or nearly completed product and changing the labels.

Corsair buys components from suppliers and pays a seperate company for assembly. Since they are managing the development, design, testing, manufacturing, and distribution.... they aren't really rebranding.


Even their SSDs are not rebrands since they do inhouse testing/development and manage the assembly themselves.
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Rebranding is taking a completed or nearly completed product and changing the labels.

Corsair buys components from suppliers and pays a seperate company for assembly. Since they are managing the development, design, testing, manufacturing, and distribution.... they aren't really rebranding.

Agreed. The biggest question when determining if something is a rebrand is how much control does the company have over the design/manufacturing of the products (if not their subcomponents). Directly licensing an existing product and slapping a different label on it is a rebrand. Corsair's strategy of designing PSUs themselves and having a OEM company like CWT manufacture them isn't.

Of course, there's "grey areas" like Sears' Kenmore brand where they contract appliance manufacturers to make products off of their existing branded lines but often with different feature combinations.

Anyhow, you can't call something a rebrand just because a company doesn't own the production facilities that the products are made in. Otherwise you'd have to call AMD's CPUs rebrands of Global Foundries products...
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Yes, so the AMD products will have to command higher prices to justify the additional layer. Higher prices on saturated commodity products is a problem.

Theres plenty of margin in this market for manufacturers to wiggle a bit, maybe they get a better deal from samsung or other fabs if they buy allot of product. Maybe it is healthy way for them to get a better waffer price.

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As for Intel SSDs.... Intel spent the billions to get into that market because they realized a decade ago that the HDD will eventually bottleneck the CPU. That's why Intel lead SSD for a few years and has chosen to focus less on it in the last few years since the market is growing by itself. Furthermore, Intel requires a 60% margin from their divisions. Rebranding will probably yield less than 10%....

10% of something is more then 0% nothing.

Intel ought to learn that lesson sometime, and I get the feeling they are in for it in a big way.
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I honestly don't see what they hope they gain by entering saturated markets. Just seems like a waste of time and money.
Which is why Corsair isn't profitable, right?

Because the markets were saturated, right?
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I will be the first to say that I was dead wrong about my statements in the rumor thread. Looks like they are goin Corsair on that azz.

Don't mind that. I love Corsair products. Always been rock solid to me. in a few months my rig will be 60% Corsair.
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