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First off, I started with my last Mini ITX project. quite some time ago. This is what I had been starting with:

Antec ISK 310-150 Case (Click)
- Very compact ITX case, but still one of the best concepts I've seen. Offers 1x Slim ODD, 2x 2,5" HDD, 1x single-slot Low Profile PCI Slot, 2x Controllable Case-Fans and a 150W "flex" internal PSU with a low-noise fan (not silent, but quieter than you would expect)

Minix 780G-SP128M Motherboard AM2+ (Click)
- Was the most powerful AMD MIni ITX Board at the time I bought it, as it had a PCIe x4 Slot.

Sparkle GeForce GTS250 Low Profile (Click)
- Was the most powerful low profile GPU at the time I bought it, but at a power consumption of something around 150W and 2 slot design.

Athlon 64 x2 5600+ (65 Watt Version) 2x 2.9 Ghz (Click!)
- Was a good performance per buck/watt CPU, as I was waiting the new Phenoms.

The system ran fine for quite a while together with a Scythe Shurikeen, some Hynix RAM and a 2,5" standard HDD and the onboard GPU. When I got the GTS 250 LP the power supply of course was not sufficient anymore. So I bought a Dell 220W DC brick (Click) and I then built a custom adaptor to use it to power the GPU, which worked really well. The only issue that still remained was that the 2-slot-design of the GTS250 was not fitting into the case, so I was using the the PC without the case closed. I was going to modify either the case (or the fan unit of the GPU... but rather the case), to make it a nice looking fit, but I could not finish my project, as I was going abroad for a year during that time.

But well, now I'm eager again to built a compact yet decently-powerful ITX gaming PC. I got a very good deal for a Phenom II and a matching board and got some DDR3 RAM to get it running. Also I'm using my old Laptop SDD now. The Antec Case stays. Here are the specs:

Zotac 890GX ITX WIFI (Click)
- Got a full PCIe x16 and has no restrictions concerning the power consumption of the CPU (some years ago most boards were restricted to 65W CPUs and only offered PCIe x1 or x4, so for me this is something new rolleyes.gif )

AMD Phenom II 1090T Black Edition 125W (Click)
- As I said, I got it together with the board for quite a good price. Also it is almost the fastest CPU the board can handle and as there are no power restrictions from the board it should work.

Right now, I tested the Phenom II together with the onboard GPU and the built-in PSU. I am measuring the power draw of the overall system with a cheap socket "powermeter" (looks a bit like this and I get peaks of 165W, which is too close to the max (its a 150W PSU with a 80-90% efficency, so it drawing 160-170W from the socket should equal the maximum).

The GPU will be:
Sapphire HD 7750 Low Profile (Click)
- fastest low profile card I know of currently, also requiring much less power than the GTS250 I had before.

The GPU is coming in the next days and I am hoping to power the system with only the Dell external PSU. I dont know how much power the mainboard drains but afaik the power draw of the whole system should be 120W(CPU)+55W(GPU)+5W(SSD/RAM/WIFI) + Mainboard.

Does anybody know how much a regular ITX mainboard drains? Seeing my tests above I assume it to be 25W, maybe dropping when the onboard GPU is disabled. If so, the components should add up to 205W which should be fine with the 220W PSU. Also, does anyone have experience with how much effect undervolting could have on the power consumption of Phenom II models?

I will post pics, once I have all my components!

Thanks for reading all that stuff biggrin.gif
-Nick
post #2 of 7
Nice build mate! Can't wait to see pics and benchmarks! PS. Where's your heatsink fan!
     
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AMD A-Series A8-5600K MSI FM2-A85XA-G65 Zotac GeForce GTX 570 (ZT-50206-10M) Corsair Value Select 8GB(2x4GB) 
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Western Digital WD-Blue Lite-ON iHAS124-04 AMD Stock Heatsink + Fan Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-Bit 
OSPowerCase
OpenSUSE 12.3 XFX Pro 550W Core Edition NZXT Phantom 410 Special Edition Gunmetal 
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AMD Turion M x64 ATI Radeon Xpress 200M 1GB Generic 80GB 
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Phillips DVD +RW Linux Mint 15 Mate x32 
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AMD A-Series A8-5600K MSI FM2-A85XA-G65 Zotac GeForce GTX 570 (ZT-50206-10M) Corsair Value Select 8GB(2x4GB) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Western Digital WD-Blue Lite-ON iHAS124-04 AMD Stock Heatsink + Fan Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-Bit 
OSPowerCase
OpenSUSE 12.3 XFX Pro 550W Core Edition NZXT Phantom 410 Special Edition Gunmetal 
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AMD Turion M x64 ATI Radeon Xpress 200M 1GB Generic 80GB 
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Concerning cooling I am using:

CPU: Scythe Shurikeen
Case: 80mm Antec TriCool adjustable, 80mm CoolerMaster silent
PSU: 80mm OEM fan (not too noisy)

The Southbridge has no fan on it, but a passive cooling block, which should get some fresh air by the Shurikeen.

GPU should arrive tomorrow, I hope it won't be tooooo noisy smile.gif
post #4 of 7
Looks good, but id just get 2 antec fans.
     
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AMD A-Series A8-5600K MSI FM2-A85XA-G65 Zotac GeForce GTX 570 (ZT-50206-10M) Corsair Value Select 8GB(2x4GB) 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Western Digital WD-Blue Lite-ON iHAS124-04 AMD Stock Heatsink + Fan Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-Bit 
OSPowerCase
OpenSUSE 12.3 XFX Pro 550W Core Edition NZXT Phantom 410 Special Edition Gunmetal 
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AMD Turion M x64 ATI Radeon Xpress 200M 1GB Generic 80GB 
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Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Western Digital WD-Blue Lite-ON iHAS124-04 AMD Stock Heatsink + Fan Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-Bit 
OSPowerCase
OpenSUSE 12.3 XFX Pro 550W Core Edition NZXT Phantom 410 Special Edition Gunmetal 
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Subbed. Would love to build a near-silent htpc like yours someday.

Any plans to mess with GPU cooling by fitting a different fan? Or is the stock 7750 fan quiet enough as is?
 
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post #6 of 7
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@She Loved E

I chose the fan because it was the only 1-slot design I could find, the Antec case doesn't have too much space between the GPU cooler and the case, so I don't think I could install a different fan there. A very small fan might work, but I don't know of any silent fans who would match the GPU... if you know one tell me, or are you going for a custom made one? Btw. the 7750 Low Profile is also availlable from HIS in a dual-slot design with two fans. Might be more quiet than the Sapphire one!

@galactic gaggle

I would love to have another Antec fan (black, no LEDs) but they don't seem to be selling them separately. Anyway I had the Coolermaster still and it is quite quiet...
post #7 of 7
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The GPU arrived and everything, but I am having some problems right now. The SSD is not detected anymore. BIOS just says SATA1: Not Detected (also tried the other SATA ports of course). I have checked if its the drives fault, but its working fine when I connect it to my laptop using a USB case. I already tried resetting the BIOS settings and switching between Native IDE/AHCI modes. What else could it be? I will try to check with another PSU when I can, maybe its just the cables.
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