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I am very confused at this point and looking for some clarification. Long story short is i was playing wow the other day and the display driver crashed. Usually this means lack of voltage. Messed around with it and it still randomly crashed. Put the card back to default clocks, still crashed. I'm not saying this happens a lot but usually crashes once every 1-2 hours of play. My confusion though is i can run Kombustor max burn in and Kmark stress test with NO errors, NO artifacts.

Anyone else having an issue with this? I will state Wow is the only game that has crashed. I've been playing Guild Wars 2, League of legends, Diablo 3, Skyrim, and Black ops 2 with no issue.

I have seen some posts on the Blizzard forums about this issue but most of the responses are from people who clearly do not have a clue.

314.07 Driver.

P.s.
Reinstalled Wow, Then fully reformatted. Same results.
Edited by Silentsoul_600 - 3/20/13 at 2:39pm
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I am very confused at this point and looking for some clarification. Long story short is i was playing wow the other day and the display driver crashed. Usually this means lack of voltage. Messed around with it and it still randomly crashed. Put the card back to default clocks, still crashed. I'm not saying this happens a lot but usually crashes once every 1-2 hours of play. My confusion though is i can run Kombustor max burn in and Kmark stress test with NO errors, NO artifacts.

Anyone else having an issue with this? I will state Wow is the only game that has crashed. I've been playing Guild Wars 2, League of legends, Diablo 3, Skyrim, and Black ops 2 with no issue.

I have seen some posts on the Blizzard forums about this issue but most of the responses are from people who clearly do not have a clue.

314.07 Driver.

P.s.
Reinstalled Wow, Then fully reformatted. Same results.

If it's just wow then it is not the card, it's between the drivers and wow itself. I haven't played wow, so I have no idea how that all goes down, but some quick research has proved switching to DX9 has helped several people (this can be done through the in-game settings and requires a client restart).

There are also new beta drivers, not sure if they'll help but it never hurts to try: http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/59433

Some things that have helped others:
-Revert drivers to this one linked here:
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Didn't even have to reboot. Game started fine (previously, it would try to load after 4 or so attempts and look like it was in software rendering, after the driver had crashed). I just played it for half an hour without issue. Also, I was seeing an occasional video lag that would last a second or two, and didn't see it with the new drivers.

http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/50294

-Change some settings if the revert didn't work:
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Fixed. I tried multiple options like getting the beta version of NVidia 310 and using legacy like 306.23. It didn't matter which version drivers I used the game would consitently crash after I downloaded and installed Windows 8.

What worked for me was to set SSAO to Low in the Graphics settings in the Options menu as well as Enable Triple Buffering in the Advanced menu. This worked for all of my chars in all of the problematic areas. Haven't seen issues since.

- Heat issues, make sure you monitor them even if furmark/ whatever stress test was fine:
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Well, I downloaded the Nvidia performance program (which allows you to control the gpu (e.g. core) and gpu fans) and changed my fan setting from the 30% default to 60%. I then went back to the area where I was unable to quest due to constant crashes, and was able to complete about 6 quests there with no video problems. The temp stayed under 80C at all times.

Soooo, it looks like this is a heat problem. Since I have the cover off my case, I will probably have to set the fan higher if I want to play WOW and have the case assembled.]



^Above quotes from http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6934194957

Other sources thus far: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6101790563
http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=164242.0

Edit: Also to clarify, again I've never played wow, don't know what you have tried and have not. The above are just some things I discovered with some searching. Just because a stress test works doesn't mean a game will, that's why so many guides suggest you play games after an OC to test it's stability. Under a stress test, the card is either all stressed or no stress, but in game it can be on and off and back on like madness, so that may be the issue. Did you OC? Have you tried no OC? Have you monitored temps during the game?
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If it's just wow then it is not the card, it's between the drivers and wow itself. I haven't played wow, so I have no idea how that all goes down, but some quick research has proved switching to DX9 has helped several people (this can be done through the in-game settings and requires a client restart).

There are also new beta drivers, not sure if they'll help but it never hurts to try: http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/59433

Some things that have helped others:
-Revert drivers to this one linked here:

-Change some settings if the revert didn't work:

- Heat issues, make sure you monitor them even if furmark/ whatever stress test was fine:


^Above quotes from http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6934194957

Other sources thus far: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/6101790563
http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=164242.0

Edit: Also to clarify, again I've never played wow, don't know what you have tried and have not. The above are just some things I discovered with some searching. Just because a stress test works doesn't mean a game will, that's why so many guides suggest you play games after an OC to test it's stability. Under a stress test, the card is either all stressed or no stress, but in game it can be on and off and back on like madness, so that may be the issue. Did you OC? Have you tried no OC? Have you monitored temps during the game?

Thanks for the response. I have tried most of that stuff. Including the new beta driver but i ll have to try to roll back through a few drivers. Reasoning for not want to do that was the recent improvements for BO2 with the last few Drivers.

Temps are not the issue. 67c max on Burn test. Around 50c gaming.

Tried my standard Oc

Moderate Oc

Stock clocks / voltage.

I too believed it to be some quirk with the game & or driver issue with the game. My wife has a 560Ti 448 core though on 314.07 driver which does not crash though which adds to my confusion.

I know Burn in does not always equate to game stability thats why i trried Kmark and all my other games with no issue.
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I too believed it to be some quirk with the game & or driver issue with the game. My wife has a 560Ti 448 core though on 314.07 driver which does not crash though which adds to my confusion.

It has to be driver/game communication issues, as you said: 560ti on these drivers works fine, same with 670s and other cards that various users have reported. 680s on these drivers, however, are having a problem. I think the best fix is to try rolling back, but like you said, you'll lose those added benefits for other games. I guess it depends on how much you play WoW and if you're willing to hurt performance in other games for a game you play more/less than them.
    
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It has to be driver/game communication issues, as you said: 560ti on these drivers works fine, same with 670s and other cards that various users have reported. 680s on these drivers, however, are having a problem. I think the best fix is to try rolling back, but like you said, you'll lose those added benefits for other games. I guess it depends on how much you play WoW and if you're willing to hurt performance in other games for a game you play more/less than them.

Right, as much as i hate to say it because i am fond of Nvidia. The 7970 with the never drivers is looking better every day rolleyes.gif lol
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