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Originally Posted by Stay Puft View Post

Link? Never have read anything like that

I also remember reading somewhere here (news section likely) that intel could not use solder with ivy because of something with the tri gate transistors, & then then talk of future processors not using soldered IHS as well. But no idea if the talk of future cpus was fact or opinion.
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Yes Intel are the only one's who know but given the feedback they have received over the temps of Ivy in comparison to Sandy, it's in their best interest to do something. rolleyes.gif

The overclocking community isn't that big, so most of the consumers were fine with it while a tiny percentage complained about temperatures.
Ivy is better in every way but temperatures, it would be nice if they could improve the temps, but I don't think they will see it as a priority.
    
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Ok how much?

2 dollars and 73 cents per chip, but if you want the warranty it is going to be another $330 on top of that. Thanks for using Spankys thumb.gif
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2 dollars and 73 cents per chip, but if you want the warranty it is going to be another $330 on top of that. Thanks for using Spankys thumb.gif

I dont like these prices.


Also, as a man without another $220 to drop on a second CPU if i screw up, would you recommend delidding?
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I dont like these prices.


Also, as a man without another $220 to drop on a second CPU if i screw up, would you recommend delidding?

Temp? If they kill the CPU u can RMA it. 200MHz extra OC. Thats 5% you will never notice. E-peen = To the MAX.
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Temp? If they kill the CPU u can RMA it. 200MHz extra OC. Thats 5% you will never notice. E-peen = To the MAX.

83 C at full load for 1 hour. 4.5Ghz

i can get it to run at 4.7-4.95 stable. but the temperatures are way to high for normal use 90-107C
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I dont like these prices.


Also, as a man without another $220 to drop on a second CPU if i screw up, would you recommend delidding?

I also did it without spare cpu but i tried it first on 2 old pentium4
Most importend thing is to use a really thin razorblade and you need some patience and steady hands

Greetings and regards Chef
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I also did it without spare cpu but i tried it first on 2 old pentium4
Most importend thing is to use a really thin razorblade and you need some patience and steady hands

Greetings and regards Chef

I also did it on an old pentium . Didnt scratch the PCB, but did smash the CPU from the fluxless solder
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I also remember reading somewhere here (news section likely) that intel could not use solder with ivy because of something with the tri gate transistors

This doesn't make any sense. There is no reason for the type of transistors to limit the use of solder on the other side of a flip chip.

Indium based solder, and the gold needed to make the IHS wettable are pretty expensive. Cost cutting reasons are the only ones that make sense for switching the TIM to non-solder. Solder is better in every other way.
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Ivy is better in every way but temperatures, it would be nice if they could improve the temps, but I don't think they will see it as a priority.

Agreed.
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