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I had my 2500k at 4.5 when I first started but backed it down to 4.0 when i did not see any difference in Skyrim, Crysis 2, and BF3 high setting. Should I raise it back up when using the 7950 or is that just when using 2 in crossfire?

A higher CPU speed usuallly helps in any game in any GPU configuration simply because games are threaded mostly for fewer rather than more threads.

Also, I played through Crysis 3 at 1440p on ultra very smoothly with 1.5GB VRAM. When considering memory bandwidth, the amount of VRAM is a smaller concern (though do not disregard it!) than the quality of the connection. 384-bit will let you cheat on total VRAM. A driver will also be optimized better for a game if the card keeps the maximum amount of resources possible in memory. If your VRAM has low usage, the game is running poorly (or you have a ton of VRAM tongue.gif).
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Latency was really only an issue in CrossFire, so unless you want to spring for two 7950's, it shouldn't even cross your mind.

This thread, and it's firestorm, details how pre-13.1 the HD 7950 suffered from excessive "99th percentile frame latency;" 20 frames would be delivered really fast, on time, then one would slip through at, say, twice the per-frame latency of the others. Repeat every second, and you have perceptable lagginess even if your average frame rate is acceptably high. What is past FPS? Inside the second per-frame latencies made a difference for me.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1334760/the-tech-report-radeon-hd-7950-vs-geforce-gtx-660-ti-revisited

I was about to disown my 7950's due to this issue, because even one of them, outside crossfire, felt less smooth than my 660 Ti. I might have got better frame rates, but its the "jerkiness" that got me. CCC 13.1 fixed this in a BIG way, so much so that I've gone back to using my 7950's and relegated the 660Ti to be a sort of game console-emulator (1080p is where a 660Ti belongs).

OP, you should be happy with a 7950, even at 1440/1600p. A second card helps in a few titles, but I've yet to find a game I couldn't play with one of them at 1440p.

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Thanks to everyone's input.biggrin.gif I am getting the 7950 now that this frame rate issue has been put to rest and fire up the 2500k back up to 4.5Ghz before the 7950 gets here. Anyone know what's the difference between the Sapphire 7950 - 2L and 3L??
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Oh wow. Glad that's in the past! The 7950 OCs like a beast, but the 7870, in terms of performance per dollar, is probably better.

Of course, if you look at performance per dollar in the GPU world, more FPS = less Perf/$.\

ETA: See if you can push that 2500k to 4.6-4.7 for maximum luls.
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M125 recommends the same card at that price but it's out of stock. And Crysis 3 youtube video said it requires 2.5GB in some parts of the game. So I am left with the 7950 again. Is there any other option, or is it the only option????

If you are planning on a 27" 1440p or 30" 1600p monitor, the 7870XT would not be your best bet. A good, dual fan HD 7950 would be a better path. A GTX 670 is an option too if you have the dosh for a 4GB model, but the 7950 would still (out)shine at higher resolutions. That 384-bit bus really starts to help in resolutions over 1080p.

KaRLiToS's first post hit the nail on the head for your (future) needs: http://www.overclock.net/t/1373424/worthy-gpu-upgrade-us-275-shipped#post_19563845

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If you are planning on a 27" 1440p or 30" 1600p monitor, the 7870XT would not be your best bet. A good, dual fan HD 7950 would be a better path. A GTX 670 is an option too if you have the dosh for a 4GB model, but the 7950 would still (out)shine at higher resolutions. That 384-bit bus really starts to help in resolutions over 1080p.

KaRLiToS's first post hit the nail on the head for your (future) needs: http://www.overclock.net/t/1373424/worthy-gpu-upgrade-us-275-shipped#post_19563845

Good luck!

Confirmed with firsthand experience.

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Oh wow. Glad that's in the past! The 7950 OCs like a beast, but the 7870, in terms of performance per dollar, is probably better.

Of course, if you look at performance per dollar in the GPU world, more FPS = less Perf/$.\

ETA: See if you can push that 2500k to 4.6-4.7 for maximum luls.


I'm afraid to speak about performance per dollar a little redface.gif

But like MKHunt mentionned the 7870 is better perf/dollar, but not much ahead of the 7950.
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I had my 2500k at 4.5 when I first started but backed it down to 4.0 when i did not see any difference in Skyrim, Crysis 2, and BF3 high setting. Should I raise it back up when using the 7950 or is that just when using 2 in crossfire?

That was just two in crossfire, you might still see some performance differences with one though.
 
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I'm afraid to speak about performance per dollar a little redface.gif

But like MKHunt mentionned the 7870 is better perf/dollar, but not much ahead of the 7950.
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The 7870 Black Editions by XFX were what convinced me of the 7870's superiority in PP/$.

Though it's only in the lead so long as you don't pay the power bills. tongue.gif

I needed a place to admit this, and the prospect of a sub-$1000 7990 absolutely thrills me. If it hits within the next month or 3, I would probably buy one.
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And I don't even bat for the red team.

Same here, I was and am still with Nvidia professionally, at least (Quadro 100%). I remember my first Nvidia, the GeForce4 Ti4600. Great memories. (Then 6600 GT, GeForce 8800 GS, GTX 560(two), 660Ti).

AMD has impressed me on the hardware side since is saw the HD 5870 and demoed it. The Titan may be king, but it isn't going to be finding its way into a mainstream PC. AMD excels at providing a value alternative, and for that, they are to be respected.
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