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Find a used 7850 or 6950/6970.... Check this site out for some bench references

Did you go look at this?
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470GTX/480GTX Sounds really powerful but are you sure 500w is enough for such a powerful card ?

I think NVIDIA actually says 600W for a GTX 480. A decent or QUALITY 600+W PSU. Here is an idea for some
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470GTX/480GTX Sounds really powerful but are you sure 500w is enough for such a powerful card ?

Your fine
In my HTPC I have a 500watt PS with a Q9550 @ 4ghz and a GTX465(pretty much a cut down GTX470 on same pcb) @ 850mhz and still i'm only pulling little less then 350watts from the wall. A GTX470 or 80 will be around the same as it uses the game GPU core, just had more things disabled.

Like I said before your not going to break 300-400watts of internal use with only a single GPU, unless your packing a power hungry CPU like my i7 920. And if you do want a new PS even something like the CX430 is more then enough.
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Your fine
In my HTPC I have a 500watt PS with a Q9550 @ 4ghz and a GTX465(pretty much a cut down GTX470 on same pcb) @ 850mhz and still i'm only pulling little less then 350watts from the wall.

Like I said before your not going to break 300-400watts of internal use with only a single GPU, unless your packing a power hungry CPU like my i7 920. And if you do want a new PS even something like the CX430 is more then enough.

I could shut my computer down overclocking my q9550 and 5970. However with the GTX 480 overclocke I did not. This was using a cheaper Rocketfish BestBuy PSU cheers.gif He just needs a decent PSU.

Nekkuh, out of curiosity have you checked your voltages via HWMonitor and in the BIOS? Check what the mins/max volts are under load with HWMonitor....
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470GTX/480GTX Sounds really powerful but are you sure 500w is enough for such a powerful card ?
stay away from the GTX480 and GTX470 on a sketchy PSU. those GPUs suck power like crazy.

What's your budget OP? I think your CPU is fine upgrading to another phenom makes no sense.
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stay away from the GTX480 and GTX470 on a sketchy PSU. those GPUs suck power like crazy.

What's your budget OP? I think your CPU is fine upgrading to another phenom makes no sense.

50-100€
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Phenom II 920 and 965BE are the same chip, clock for clock there is nothing different. Both have 6mb of L3 cache, only thing is the 965BE has a unlocked multi so your not dependent on fsb speed for overclocking.


Yes new PSU + RAM + Videocard will do more for you then just a CPU+Videocard.

You should still try and fit a SSD into your build, that way you can keep your OS from bogging down your HDD. Then just use the HDD for games. To be honest out of all the upgrades you can do to your system a Video card and SSD would be the two biggest noticeable differences, that old HDD you have been using would be like using DSL vs Cable internet.
A 550ti is not faster then a Overclocked 4890, at its best it is like a stock 4890. A 4890 @ 1ghz is no joke, I would be hard pressed if a 550ti at max OC could overtake a 4890 @ 1ghz. I remember GTX280's getting beat out by 4890's in the OC game.
Exactly. I'm not saying buy a new PSU purely for higher wattage.. buy a quality PSU like a Corsair that will actually give close to the rated value. Plus clean power is good for all of the components in your PC.
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50-100€
Used HD5870 gets my vote. thumb.gif i'd avoid any GTX#50 cards as they are always too slow for their price.

If you're lucky and you can find a HD6950 for that price then its a good deal too.
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Used HD5870 gets my vote. thumb.gif i'd avoid any GTX#50 cards as they are always too slow for their price.

If you're lucky and you can find a HD6950 for that price then its a good deal too.

Though if you look at it as a best bang for your buck even a GTX470 with a moderate OC will run circles around a hefty oced 5870. And you can get a GTX470 for around $100-120 if you look hard/long enough, see them going for that much here on OCN all the time. Pickup a CX430 PS or equally reliable unit, normally cost around 35 bucks or so. Also Power usage isn't as bad as people think, still is a great card for raw power. A GTX480 with 1.5gb of V-RAM also makes it great for allowing him to turn up his settings. If OP wants a card to play games the best, these would be the cards to get. Otherwise it would be better to suck it up and get a HD7000 series card.
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Though if you look at it as a best bang for your buck even a GTX470 with a moderate OC will run circles around a hefty oced 5870. And you can get a GTX470 for around $100-120 if you look hard/long enough, see them going for that much here on OCN all the time. Pickup a CX430 PS or equally reliable unit, normally cost around 35 bucks or so. Also Power usage isn't as bad as people think, still is a great card for raw power. A GTX480 with 1.5gb of V-RAM also makes it great for allowing him to turn up his settings. If OP wants a card to play games the best, these would be the cards to get. Otherwise it would be better to suck it up and get a HD7000 series card.
i know the GTX470/GTX480 are more powerful than an HD5870 but they are loud, run hot and require alot of power(they would be fine on a quality 500w PSU) . I think an HD5870 would give OP a significant boost in power while not demanding too much of his system.
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i know the GTX470/GTX480 are more powerful than an HD5870 but they are loud, run hot and require alot of power(they would be fine on a quality 500w PSU) . I think an HD5870 would give OP a significant boost in power while not demanding too much of his system.

My GTX465 was the msi twin frozer II, I could OC the card to 820mhz and still have it at a non noisy level while gaming. But my GTX470 in my main rig before I went water cooling had a ZALMAN VF3000F cooler on it, now on my GTX465, and is super quiet and keeps the GPU pretty damn cool. Currently pushing that gtx465 @ 850mhz with 1.150v what is a pretty high voltage and still doesn't have a problem with the heat. The only thing that sucks is the stock cooler, but if he finds a twin frozer or gets a VF3000F cooler then he is set.

Though I guess what the best deal OP can find for a GPU would probably be the best determining factor.
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