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The A10-5800K is FASTER than the Phenom II 965 BE in most situations. Simply look at Anandtechbench results...

Wow, the misinformation just blows my mind.
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The A10-5800K is FASTER than the Phenom II 965 BE in most situations. Simply look at Anandtechbench results...

Wow, the misinformation just blows my mind.

That's hilarious because I posted them and they say the 965 is faster overall, especially in games. Check your glasses. In fact, it's the very first reply to his question in this thread, that you apparently didn't bother to read before saying their is tons of misinformation.

But I'll repost the exact same thing you are referring to here...

http://anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=675

Enjoy the realization tongue.gif
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That's hilarious because I posted them and they say the 965 is faster overall, especially in games. Check your glasses. In fact, it's the very first reply to his question in this thread, that you apparently didn't bother to read before saying their is tons of misinformation.

But I'll repost the exact same thing you are referring to here...

http://anandtech.com/bench/Product/102?vs=675

Enjoy the realization tongue.gif

Pay attention to lower is better, Higher is better.... They win about the same amount of tests. When you consider the fact that the A10-5800K is missing L3 cache, has an integrated GPU with the power of a dedicated HD6670, it's the obvious winner. Not to mention it has the node advantage, consumes less power and realistically needs less voltage.

Who cares if the Phenom II gets 1-4 FPS more with the GTX 280 they used to test games? That's within margin of error.

The A10-5800K is faster in the following scenarios:

Photoshop
DivX encoding
x264 encoding
Cinebench R10 - Single threaded
Par2 - Multithreaded
Blender - Character rendering
Winrar 3.8 Compression
x264 benchmarking


The Phenom II is fastest in the following scenarios:

3dsmax r9 - All
Cinebench R10 - Multi-Threaded
POV-Ray 3.7 beta 23 - SMP Benchmark
DOA - Gaming
WoW - Gaming
DoW - Gaming
Sorenson Squeeze Pro 5 - Flash Video
Excel
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but for gaming, the 965 is better. Besides, how does a 965 at 3.8 compare to the 5800k at 3.8? I'm sure the differences will diminish quickly.

I'm really tempted to buy a 965 and throw it into my sig rig. Just to see how it fairs.
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Pay attention to lower is better, Higher is better.... They win about the same amount of tests. When you consider the fact that the A10-5800K is missing L3 cache, has an integrated GPU with the power of a dedicated HD6670, it's the obvious winner. Not to mention it has the node advantage, consumes less power and realistically needs less voltage.

Who cares if the Phenom II gets 1-4 FPS more with the GTX 280 they used to test games? That's within margin of error.

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Photoshop
DivX encoding
x264 encoding
Cinebench R10 - Single threaded
Par2 - Multithreaded
Blender - Character rendering
Winrar 3.8 Compression
x264 benchmarking


The Phenom II is fastest in the following scenarios:

3dsmax r9 - All
Cinebench R10 - Multi-Threaded
POV-Ray 3.7 beta 23 - SMP Benchmark
DOA - Gaming
WoW - Gaming
DoW - Gaming

And in general, the Phenom II performs higher in those fields over the 5800k then in the case where the 5800k barely edges out the Phenom II. Plus, last I checked the phenom II was cheaper since he wanted a dedicated card / the option for a dedicated card.
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but for gaming, the 965 is better. Besides, how does a 965 at 3.8 compare to the 5800k at 3.8? I'm sure the differences will diminish quickly.

I'm really tempted to buy a 965 and throw it into my sig rig. Just to see how it fairs.

The 5800K is unlocked as well. You can't compare completely different architectures at the same clock-speeds.

The 5800K is Piledriver based, the Phenom II is Denab based. The 5800K has 2 modules, 2 cores per module, the Phenom II has 4 modules, 1 core per module.
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Yes, that's normally true, but these two are VERY close in performance despite the 400mhz lower clock speed on the 965. That's the only reason why i was curious as to clock to clock performance.

Regardless, i think I'm going to pick one up friday. I have no reason not to, and if my bios doesn't like it, oh well, gives me an excuse to finally dump money on an AM3 system.
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Is 5800k a true quad core?

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Is 5800k a true quad core?

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Well, it depends how you define a true quad core, however I would say it is not.

It has 2 modules, 4 cores. Your typical Quad will have 4 modules, 4 cores.
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