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hey guys which do you think is better? one 360 monsta 80mm thick rad with push pull config? or 2 30mm thick 360 rads with push alone?
its corsair SP120 performance ed fans
im really not sure cus if you think about it its really 80mm thick vs 60 mm if you stack em.. but which and why?
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hey guys which do you think is better? one 360 monsta 80mm thick rad with push pull config? or 2 30mm thick 360 rads with push alone?
its corsair SP120 performance ed fans
im really not sure cus if you think about it its really 80mm thick vs 60 mm if you stack em.. but which and why?

Go for 30mm with push/pull if you want fans at low RPM. Monsta won't show dominating performance below 1800 or so RPM. Thick radiator starts to perform better when fan speed is high enough.

So if you're concerned about noise, I recommend 30mm push/pull. 2 slow fans are much quieter than 1 fast fan.
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30mm are usually high fpi. stacking 2, youre going to need some serious fan rpm and a shroud between the rads.
just google rad stacking.
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Go for 30mm with push/pull if you want fans at low RPM. Monsta won't show dominating performance below 1800 or so RPM. Thick radiator starts to perform better when fan speed is high enough.

the ut60 and sr1 outperform the 30mm high fpi rads at low rpm.
Edited by pc-illiterate - 3/20/13 at 8:24pm
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30mm are usually high fpi. stacking 2, youre going to need some serious fan rpm and a shroud between the rads.
just google rad stacking.
the ut60 and sr1 outperform the 30mm high fpi rads at low rpm.

Yeah, thick rads generally perform better at every RPM. At low RPM, the difference is very little and does not justifying spending additional money for thicker rads.
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well it makes sense...but the question is whether 2 360 rads (30mm) placed separately with 3 fans of em would out perform one 360 rad (80mm) with 6 fans on em...oh and well the corsair SP high performance are some of the best fans i have ever seen when it comes to static pressure
and yea 35 db is loud but undervolting ftw??
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sorry for double post :S
but uhm also would corsair fans perform just as well in pull as it would in push? (the fan's frame isn't completely square so im wondering of itll suck air through from the little gaps, totally bypassing the rad)

also i may go with the 60mm thick rad instead of a monsta...since its 20$ cheaper and its also more compatible with cases in the future...
xspc sellssome VERY cheap 360 rads for like 46$ (30mm thick) that was why i was asking, the monsta rad just looks beastly lol and its 115$ soo its sorta close to the same price,
the 60mm thick rad is 86$ and from pics it looks better than the xspc...so may just end up goin with the 60mm with pull alone (i wanna see the fans from inside the case lol!)
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well it makes sense...but the question is whether 2 360 rads (30mm) placed separately with 3 fans of em would out perform one 360 rad (80mm) with 6 fans on em...oh and well the corsair SP high performance are some of the best fans i have ever seen when it comes to static pressure
and yea 35 db is loud but undervolting ftw??

2 x 360 rads will always outperform 1, if you dont stack them.
i'll link the graphs page from martin. you can search through the list on the left for the different rads, all 360 variants. as whale said, it depends on your fan speed for actual performance difference on which is best. i use yl low speed 1350 fans, awesome and almost silent. all i hear is a slight hum if i sit with my head on the case.
http://martinsliquidlab.org/2012/05/01/alphacool-nexxxos-st30-360-radiator/4/
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hey guys which do you think is better? one 360 monsta 80mm thick rad with push pull config? or 2 30mm thick 360 rads with push alone?
its corsair SP120 performance ed fans
im really not sure cus if you think about it its really 80mm thick vs 60 mm if you stack em.. but which and why?

I have rads of all thickness (25, 30, 45, 60, and 80) and I would take 2 30mm 360 radiators in "push only" mode over 1 80mm 360 radiator in "push/pull" mode every day of the week and twice on Sunday. I am not a huge fan of "radiator sandwiches" though.

The reason why I would go with a 720 thin radiator with 6 fans over a 360 thick radiator with 6 fans is because of sheer frontal surface area (which when you are talking about moving air out of the case, it more important, especially when you are talking about doing it quietly, than surface area due to thickness) and the ability to push the air out of the case better. Yes having fans in "push/pull" will get you some better results, but typically, the results for "push/pull" on thinner radiators will get you less of an improvement over "push/pull" on thicker radiators. That is why I always use "push/pull" on my 60mm and 80mm radiators, but I don't worry about it on 25 and 30mm radiators, because the air on a "push only" doesn't slow down and linger as much going through thinner radiator.
Edited by 47 Knucklehead - 3/21/13 at 3:23am
post #9 of 9
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http://www.xs-pc.com/products/radiators/rs-series/rs360-triple-fan-radiator/ well if im buying 2 360 rads itll most likely be 2 of those since they are SOOO cheap lol
and the 60mm ones are pretty nice also http://www.xs-pc.com/products/radiators/rx-series/rx360-triple-fan-radiator/
not sure but i wont get 2 60mm ones tho
my case would require ALOT more modding to fit 2 360s in em thats why im considering the monstas
oh also
which fans do you recommend on the rads? the corsair seems really nice (looks awesome ) and they come in packs of 2 aka less shipping costs haha
also would push be enough for the 30mm thick rads?
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