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So I'm upgrading my x20 XSPC loop, keeping my rx240 and my waterblock

new pump -> Swiftech mcp655
http://store.yahoo.com/sidewindercomputers/swmc12vdcpu.html


new dual bay res -> XSPC dual bay

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=34967:6569f8219a9818cae10f227a092c8a6d
or
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/xsacdu5refor.html

Not sure if I can use the second one properly as I intend but the first one looks really bare with no protection on the screws, I'm afraid of it cracking open and providing a waterfall to my rig


new GPU block -> heatkiller 79x0
(from what i read the his 7970 is a reference board and this block will work fine?)
http://www.frozencpu.com/search.html?mv_profile=keyword_search&mv_session_id=DgMYxa9b&searchspec=heatkiller+79x0&go.x=0&go.y=0

does the nickel one provide better performance than the copper top one or is this just aesthetics and a price for the nickel? Sidewindercomputers is one of the only places i've found them for cheap but i'm still looking.. will be getting the backplate as well hoping it helps with the weight of that block

new rad -> 120mm rad for the botot of case alphacool 80mm monsta or rx120

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=34506
will running 2 different rads with different FPI cause instability in the loop for cooling? Should i just run a 3 fan push pull setup with 2 rx120's instead of the 80mm alphacool?

I run 7/16"ID x 5/8" OD - Clear tubing... I'm researching but not sure how to make a proper and efficient drain line for my rig

I still need some fans that provide either massive static pressure at high speed or a good pressure at lower speeds, i have 2 blademasters that run 2000rpm now and they are the loudest thing in my setup



If you guys can suggest or see anything im lacking here would be awesome, I am trying to buy everything from one place but it looks like that wont happen.
don't let me learn by spending the money smile.gif give me your experience and knowledge!

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PSU will be flipped and cables will be organized after i get everything i need!
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Get pump from performance-pcs.com cheaper plus your already ordering from there.
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_201&products_id=28303

Also for GPU block check EK Cooling Configuartor to make sure you GPU is reference don't want to buy a fancy full cover block and it not fit.
http://www.coolingconfigurator.com/

Also another good res if you want to keep the pump separate and use a bay res would be this from EK.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16690/ex-res-390/EK_Dual_Bay_SPIN_Reservoir_w_Flow_Meter_-_Acetal_Black_CSQ.html?tl=g30c97s168#blank

Drain Valve, many ways to do this but I would recommend this from koolance. Best way to install is at the bottom of your loop make that a bit longer so you can either get a tube on it or open it under a bucket or something. then just open the top of your res and let her flow.
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=23416

These fans are really good quite for the performance and great static pressure.
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=24749

Side not leave enough slack on the tubes doing from your res so you can pull it forward when needed to add water.

Hope this helps!!! wink.gif)
 
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Side not leave enough slack on the tubes doing from your res so you can pull it forward when needed to add water.

Sorry kind of tired suppose to say "Side note"
 
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I'm thinking that a small tube res would look better smile.gif
Also, there's absolutely no need for such a powerful pump.
You could easily get a cheaper pump np.

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Pump- X2O should handle the added GPU if you want tonsave a few bucks. While I don't know the details aboit the GPU restriction, I doubt flow rate would drop so much that you couldn't make it work. With that said, nothing wrong with a good old D5 either, nice 50,000 hour life pump.

Bay res- As with all bay reservoirs you do trade convenience and compact for noise. Youbcan't decouple the pump so noise is produced through viration transfer. If you are not ultra noise critical probably not a problem.

Extra rad - good idea for extra GPU heat, just pay attention to case airflow. you might want your front case fans exhausting to pull that bottom rad heat out. You just don't want rad heat from the bottom rad being sucked into the top one or you'll loose a lot of efficiency. Go with a 120 vs 80 if you can, wider is better.

Other than that, I would treat yourself to some nice UV colored tubing and replace the factory xspc kit stuff and call it good..smile.gif
    
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@highendpcgamer

thanks mate wink.gif you have helped so much !!! im assuming i can use my tubing with those compression fittings without having issues of it actually closing?

@amputate

with the gpu block i will be doing alot of cris-cros on the tubing and i just want to have something that provides enough pressure and gives me room for future upgrades

@martinm210

Martin im worried! My bay res with a pump in it doesnt really give off too much noise, would a cylinder res hanging on the case somewhere just provide less vibration or something?

yes my main concern was putting this push pull 80mm thick rad at the bottom would be giving too much heat to my rx240 at the top making my cooling somewhat null.... im thinking about a 120mm slim on the back of my case but i don't think the 30mm would cool anywhere as near as the 80mm frown.gif

if i flipped the 200mm fan at the front of my case do you think it would enough to pull the hot air from the rad at the bottom?



thanks for posting guys, great to hear some experienced users share their experience and knowledge, im a bit confused on if i should make the purchase now, i dont want an extremely efficient loop being limited by a radiator at the bottom restricting the cooling of the radiator at the top
  
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Bump any chance the people who viewed want to give me their opinions? Will help much! I'm looking for a cylinder res now not sure what to do considering the 80mm rad at the bottom is going to create too much heat for the rad at the top
  
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What case are you using?


If you can fit a Monsta 240 vertically in the front of the case with 120mm push/pull fans with a controller I would do that. You can run the Monsta radiator vertically without a reservoir.

All connections for out to pump and in from loop at the bottom.

On top of monster add some tubing going to top of case with fill port. You can fill it at top and bleed out the air very easily. No reservoir needed. This will work on the Monsta 240 or the 120 but I think you are better off just getting the 240 since it doesn't cost much more money and then sell the XSPC radiator which I think is over kill for single CPU and GPU liquid cooling. Your loop will have very good liquid flow and great air flow and less tubing clutter. Cleaner, simpler and very efficient.
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hey sonda, i cant fit the monsta at the top of my case, i have the thermaltake L10GT

its not the biggest but definitely has some room, im thinking about either putting the monsta 120 where my current dual bay is with a push pull going out and getting a cylinder res inside the case

its either this or im getting another rx240 since its even cheaper than the monsta 120mm 80mm and mounting it on the back of my case(which i really dont want to have external parts)


do you think i could run
res-> rx240 -> cpu -> gpu -> res without cooling issues? wouldnt the 7970 burn up my water fast?
  
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hey sonda, i cant fit the monsta at the top of my case, i have the thermaltake L10GT

its not the biggest but definitely has some room, im thinking about either putting the monsta 120 where my current dual bay is with a push pull going out and getting a cylinder res inside the case

its either this or im getting another rx240 since its even cheaper than the monsta 120mm 80mm and mounting it on the back of my case(which i really dont want to have external parts)


do you think i could run
res-> rx240 -> cpu -> gpu -> res without cooling issues? wouldnt the 7970 burn up my water fast?

Nice case and to put a monster vertically in the front of the case you would have to destroy all the nice bay adapters.

So monster 240 at the front looks hard to do.


If you are considering mounting outside you should just get a Monster 360 mounted vertically since it will have no problem handling the heat and you can run the fans low RPM and still get nice temps.

Monster 120 in push pull with your RX240 looks possible but I'm not certain.

That case looks tough to water cool properly.


First off I would run your current RX240 and see how temps are and if necessary add another 120mm radiator or swap out for larger external radiator. Good luck.
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