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post #11 of 26
I aint even mad. OP brings up lots of valid points. OCN rejects those points in search of more hz. Cause that's what humanity does. I'm sorry OP but on behalf of humanity: disregard currency, acquire hz.
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post #12 of 26
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Originally Posted by BinaryDemon View Post

True, while most of us dont need huge cases, it sure is nice to have all the extra room to work with. Take my sig rig for example- after putting an H100 and a liquid cooled GTX580 in a midsized Antec 300 it's quite crowded.

How the heck can you fit an h100 in an antec 300? Did you remove the drive-bay?
post #13 of 26
this is OCN and its all about 5 degrees or 5mhz more....or in some cases 5 inches more smile.gif
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post #14 of 26
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Originally Posted by BinaryDemon View Post

True, while most of us dont need huge cases, it sure is nice to have all the extra room to work with. Take my sig rig for example- after putting an H100 and a liquid cooled GTX580 in a midsized Antec 300 it's quite crowded.

How the heck can you fit an h100 in an antec 300? Did you remove the drive-bay?

as posted above:

This is an Antec 300 with a 360mm radiator.

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How the heck can you fit an h100 in an antec 300? Did you remove the drive-bay?

Yep. Mines not as extreme as Xinoxide's ...


Edited by BinaryDemon - 3/20/13 at 10:52pm
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post #16 of 26
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How the heck can you fit an h100 in an antec 300? Did you remove the drive-bay?

Yep. Mines not as extreme as Xinoxide's ...


Wow nice fit!
post #17 of 26
Im actually amazed that some of you guys got pissed off at this post. I thought dranas post was the best, gave me a laugh. There are all kinds of builds on ocn bud, my current setup cost $2000 and I consider it a budget build. I built it because it suited my needs. People build crazy rigs because they want to. I don't care whether the guy was trolling, he made valid points & just because he has been here a week doesn't mean he is automatically a troll. Some of you lot need to grow up & treat every member & question with respect, even when it doesn't deserve it.

The saying " each to their own " comes to mind in this situation.

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post #18 of 26
OP, while I can definitely appreciate the fact that you're trying to inject what you consider to be helpful common sense into the community, I think you might have missed the point somewhere. Most of the people on here are hobbyists. Hobbyists don't do things for practicality or conservatism. Hobbyists do things because it's what they enjoy doing.

Let's consider all the people whose hobby it is to buy old antique cars and make hot rods out of them; do they need to spend $30,000 making a 1938 Model T that can go 350 MPH when they can go buy a perfectly good 2013 mid-sized sedan for $10,000? After all, the sedan has a warranty, is more fuel efficient, cheaper to buy and to operate, doesn't require all those hours of building work, and 90 MPH is probably more than fast enough for 100% of your daily driving needs. You catch my drift?
Edited by Clowerweb - 3/21/13 at 1:28am
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post #19 of 26
I had a 2k facebook machine as I normally didn't even game on it tongue.gif But I did spend all my time and a lot of money making it super quiet. Quieter than 99% of the builds on here but only performed as well as most $1000 builds. And I didn't even use half the space in my full tower.

Whatever, this is OCN and is a hobbyist forum. Also as a head-fier, my headphone gear cost more than my desktop rig biggrin.gif
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post #20 of 26
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I'm going to say it because it needs to be said, particularly to many of the new builders & people on here dishing out all kinds of crazy advice. Lately there has been too many threads complaining about not having enough space, wanting full towers, NEEDING a 900d to fit your main rig in, NEEDING a $300 case to throw an air cooled build in there.

This is simply false. This does not apply to water coolers as they are a different type of builder, and the more room the better. You do not need to go out & buy a 900d, a Fractal XL, etc.. for an air cooled build or a h100i cooler.

If you can't build a rig in a small mid tower, you shouldn't be upgrading to a full size tower. In todays mainstream computer building scene, a mid tower is enough for ALL of us, unless your going to be pushing the limits or have special requirements. With things like the gtx titan, micro atx, or even mini itx, there is just no need to throw down $450 for a piece of junk case, when there's cases out there for $100 and under that look better, perform better & do what a computer case should.

This is just to all the builders who are starting & feel like they have to have all the best gear & waste their time getting there, because there's no end to that road. It's quite easy to buy a budget gaming pc rig, make it look good & demolish any game on triple monitors. Under 2 grand and you'll have no issues. There are people spending $5000 on rigs... great, but you don't need all that and you can push your hardware to the limits without it.

Even water cooling has gotten cheaper & you don't need massive monsta rads to get the job done. Save your money, buy a better monitor, a better setup, better speakers & maybe spend the money elsewhere like games. With the way the mainstream & enthusiast market moves, your investing in an outdated machine & it's just so much easier & smarter to say put $1500 - 2000 into a machine for 3-4 years then put $4000 - $5000 into a build which will be running old hardware for 4-5 years.

Pc gaming is not just about going out & building a ridiculous looking machine & to be an enthusiast you don't have to own all those gimmicky boards , those features are mainly for LN2 and extreme users. It's more about being a part of the community, enjoying the building process & the games. Not wasting your money & trying to be awesome by having your computer flash!

I encourage everyone to just remember that today you can put together a z77 rig that will give you the same gaming performance if not better than %90 of the rigs on ocn. Triple ips panels, i5 3570k, gtx titan or gtx 680 4gb, crossfire 7970's and it's easy. A good set of cheap speakers & your laughing. Laughing at those people setting up incredibly in efficient water cooling loops getting 5 degrees on you, the guys spending an extra 1200 on x79 for 64 gb of ram when they use maximum 12, for the guys spending 250 dollars on dominator ram because of the hand screened icus,

Snap out of it folks, it's time to build smarter.

I agree with a lot of what you said but, I feel you are going to go down burning which really sucks because as you said some people are giving this out as advice.

EDIT: Alot of people use the crappy excuse "This is OCN" so every thing must be be the best. These people know nothing of where overclocking came form and how it was born.

Overclocking came to be when got lucky to figure and successfully bump the FSB of their chips before the FSB was adjustable. That mean if you had 100mhz chip and were luck you set it to the 133 mhz setting. Back then the only reason FSB was adjustable was to accommodate different chips which means it when up or down in BIG jumps.

When you could finally adjust the FSB 1mhz at a time people bough the lower models to achieve the higher models performance for less money. Back then what now cost 1k or 2k cost 3k, and that's with the Dollar being stronger.

Sooo OCing used to be about saving money and building smarter.

And god help you if you do this,


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Originally Posted by Clowerweb View Post

OP, while I can definitely appreciate the fact that you're trying to inject what you consider to be helpful common sense into the community, I think you might have missed the point somewhere. Most of the people on here are hobbyists. Hobbyists don't do things for practicality or conservatism. Hobbyists do things because it's what they enjoy doing.

Let's consider all the people whose hobby it is to buy old antique cars and make hot rods out of them; do they need to spend $30,000 making a 1938 Model T that can go 350 MPH when they can go buy a perfectly good 2013 mid-sized sedan for $10,000? After all, the sedan has a warranty, is more fuel efficient, cheaper to buy and to operate, doesn't require all those hours of building work, and 90 MPH is probably more than fast enough for 100% of your daily driving needs. You catch my drift?

This is the other side of my thoughts, I couldn't have said it better.
Edited by cdoublejj - 3/21/13 at 2:53am
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