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Hi guys, I'm gonna be upgrading my processor in the upcoming months. Currently, I've got a Phenom II 555 unlocked to 4 cores (though it's kind of a volt-hog). I'd like to know what would be the better buy for my buck: another Phenom II in the way of the 1055T X6, or the newer FX-8350 Vishera chip?

Just want to clarify this: I'm looking for the better VALUE, not simply better performance. From a local buy-and-sell service (TipidPC/a Filipino Newegg), I can get the 1055T for P4,600/$115. The cheapest 8350 goes for about P8,500/$212.5. I've heard of people quoting all-around performance of Vishera to be anywhere from 15-30% that of Thuban, but price-wise, I need to shell out an 85% premium to get that. And from my eyes it's not worth it.

However, I concede I'm no expert on the matter. I also don't know if the performance gap widens even more if both chips are OC-ed (1055T up to 4.0GHz, 8350 to 4.8GHz). I also am open to hearing other arguments that would help justify the disproportionately higher price premium I'd have to pay for the respective performance jump.

By the way, the motherboard I'll be putting it on is an Asrock 890GX Extreme3. And I'm going to beat you to the punch, too; it does in fact work with the new FX chips. (Spread the word, guys!)

EDIT 3-22-2013: Updated the title to better reflect the subject of the thread.
Edited by firagabird - 3/21/13 at 10:00pm
     
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Personally from a *budget* standpoint I would go with the 1055t and overclock it to 4.0GHz. I have not personally got my hands on a FX chip yet but I have owned a 1055t I ran at 4GHz and a 1090t that would not go past 4.1GHz and I currently have a 1045t. For half the cost I do not think you will be disappointed.

What were you looking to do with this PC? Games? Encoding?
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thuban at 4.0GHz is plenty fast. and at half the price of FX-8350 (for your area)
i would recommend it. double up on video cards with $100 USD that you save.
what is nicer than a 7850? two.
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you might want to consider the 8320 in most places its been cheaper aswell then the 8350 tongue.gif otherwise Phenom II x6 are rock solid CPUs smile.gif
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FX-8320....
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How's the 8320 priced in the Philippines?
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I'm mostly getting the CPU for gaming, though I would also have times (school or work) where I'd like to improve my photo/audio/video transcoding and editing performance.

I've found a vendor in TipidPC that can sell a FX-8320 for P7,100/$177.5, though the common low price point is around P7,600/$190. Optimistically, that's still ~54% the price. There's also a smaller chance that an 8320 can hit the OC potential of an 8350.
     
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Originally Posted by firagabird View Post

I'm mostly getting the CPU for gaming, though I would also have times (school or work) where I'd like to improve my photo/audio/video transcoding and editing performance.

I've found a vendor in TipidPC that can sell a FX-8320 for P7,100/$177.5, though the common low price point is around P7,600/$190. Optimistically, that's still ~54% the price. There's also a smaller chance that an 8320 can hit the OC potential of an 8350.
how so.?
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Definitely the Vishera because you'll be adding 2 cores to a current setup, you'd be paying $100 to add 2 cores of the same architecture whereas with the 8320 which does clock just as well as an 8350 as far as I'm aware.

Vote for Vishera. Do it. If you upgrade to Thuban you'll be upgrading from that quickly whereas the Vishera will be a heavy investment which will last.

It's really common sense if you think about it.
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@malmental, I'd love to know how/why that's the case as well. However, in terms of what made me believe an 8320 may not, in terms of the likelihood of it occurring, OC as well as an 8350, I've been reading around that the chips of the former may in fact reach the OC frequencies of the latter, but usually requires higher voltage.

Here's one thread from this forum that hints at the 8320 may not be "just" an underclocked 8350. Here's another from Tom's showing a discussion on the difference in OC potential.

@FlashFir, I'm not sure I agree with the long-lasting investment argument, since the moment Steamroller comes out with its new architecture, it'll probably look a lot more attractive to upgrade to that. Also, you may be getting 2 more "cores" if we're comparing physical divisions within each chip, but a) per-clock performance on Phenom II chips is said to still be better than current FX chips, either BD or PD b) they're not really true cores, but rather pairs of "modules".

I know that FX is an all-around (i.e. not just games, but also multi-tasking, video editing, media encoding, etc.) better chip than PII. However, remember again that I said that the main reason I'm upgrading is for gaming, with everything else a secondary concern (in fact, if I weren't gaming, I wouldn't even be considering an upgrade). The comparisons done of PII vs. FX is even worse for the latter, from the sites I've seen it being compared (particularly The Tech Report; I absolutely love their tesing methodology).

With those in mind, knowing my usage type and the factors I value (gaming vs. productivity, value vs. pure performance), I ask my question again: what's the better-valued processor?

EDIT (just 5 mins after posting): put up another link for the 8320 vs 8350 comparison. Hm, interesting that the thread took on this angle of discussion.
Edited by firagabird - 3/22/13 at 1:23am
     
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