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Look at my pictures am ready pushing air into the card from the side... Useless... I can clock higher but vrm reaches 114 degrees and throttles
Which model do you have ? and what is your mV in afterBurner or your OC software.

And for the thermal pads if I looks to my card I think you will be good with the 1mm.
   
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hi, I'm thinking of changing the vrm thermal pad since the vrms are kinda toasty... I found Phobya Thermal pad XT(only pads I found in my crap country ROMANIA!!!) 7W/mk but they come in 3 types... 120x20mm maximum bridgeable gap: 0.5mm/1mm/1.5mm what gap size do I need?

Changing thermal pad hardly makes a difference. I did it. Used Fujipoly Extreme, 11.0 w/mK and the best thermal pad on the market, and it made a ~3C difference. This was not the fault of the thermal pad itself but the dinky little aluminum heatsink.

The heatsink gets completely saturated with heat. Basically it needs a larger heatsink with more mass to get much better when using a better thermal pad.

Direct airflow to the heatsink makes the biggest difference. When using a blower fan pointed directly at the heatsink with my side panel off it would drop VRM temps 20C+. But I'm on watercooled exposed heatsink and it's not the stock heatsink either. Modded an Enzotech MST-88 onto the card.
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Which model do you have ? and what is your mV in afterBurner or your OC software.

And for the thermal pads if I looks to my card I think you will be good with the 1mm.
sapphire with elpida ram... afterburner shows 1175 in full load and gpuz 1138-1150mv ASIC 75.3% thinking of getting another one since works well except for vrm temps
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Changing thermal pad hardly makes a difference. I did it. Used Fujipoly Extreme, 11.0 w/mK and the best thermal pad on the market, and it made a ~3C difference. This was not the fault of the thermal pad itself but the dinky little aluminum heatsink.

The heatsink gets completely saturated with heat. Basically it needs a larger heatsink with more mass to get much better when using a better thermal pad.

Direct airflow to the heatsink makes the biggest difference. When using a blower fan pointed directly at the heatsink with my side panel off it would drop VRM temps 20C+. But I'm on watercooled exposed heatsink and it's not the stock heatsink either. Modded an Enzotech MST-88 onto the card.
I still use stock cooling since it does decent job on the gpu temp ~40% never passes 60-65c so I cant blow air directly into the vrm...

and I really need to cool the vrms... I looked up my vrms datasheet and they say max 85c... so its bad...

also found today the card teardown http://www.bitsandchips.it/recensioni/9-hardware/2444-sapphire-hd-7870-xt-tahiti-sotto-mentite-spoglie?start=6
looks like the vrm heatsink is a little bigger than in the others... so im still thinking crappy pad....
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and I really need to cool the vrms... I looked up my vrms datasheet and they say max 85c... so its bad...

That 85C is for the vrm controller chip, not for the FETs. FETs can take temps well above 100C (iirc the card starts throttling around ~114C)
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depends where the temp sensor is... amd cpus throttle well beyond 62c that they are recommended for.... but they throttle at a much higher temp....
bellow throttle temp is not "safe" needs to be in operational temp so you don't damage it over time
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The sensor measures the mosfet temperature, not the controller's temperature. 85c is perfectly fine for vrm temp.
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depends where the temp sensor is... amd cpus throttle well beyond 62c that they are recommended for.... but they throttle at a much higher temp....
bellow throttle temp is not "safe" needs to be in operational temp so you don't damage it over time

62C is only for AMD and it's not even an actual on die sensor like Intel. When AMD's "sensor" says 62C the actual die temperature is likely higher than that.
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I was making a point I don't require explanations about cpu temp or how to handle it .... So let's get back to the topic.... how do I cool the vrms ...?
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I was making a point I don't require explanations about cpu temp or how to handle it .... So let's get back to the topic.... how do I cool the vrms ...?
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thanks that helps.... its like I'm asking "how do I fix my car?" and you say "you fix it!" thumb.gif
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