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"We're working overtime in pushing this, talking to our members, activating our grassroots," says Stephen Schatz, a spokesman for the National Retail Federation. The group's board members include OfficeMax, Macy's, the Container Store, and Saks, which argue it's only fair to force Americans to pay sales taxes when buying from online retailers.

The justification for the proposal reprises arguments that state tax collectors have made for at least a decade: online retailers that don't always collect taxes are unreasonably depriving state governments of revenue and enjoy an unfair competitive advantage over big box retailers that do collect taxes. On the other hand, there are close to 10,000 jurisdictions that can levy taxes, each with its own rules and ability to conduct audits, and complying with all of those as a small retailer is not a trivial task.

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frown.gif I like paying exactly $299.99 when I purchase something from amazon
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I don't know anything about the American tax system, but I can't see the likes of Amazon, Google, Apple & Microsoft laying down and taking this....
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As long as the taxes go to my own state...I'd hate to buy something online and have the tax go to some state I don't live in.

Though I think it would be an inefficient system to pay the tax to Newegg and then have Newegg's financial employees figure that they have to send $12.54 to the state of Minnesota because I bought something. I am sure we'd see a substantial rise in the price of online items even before the tax was applied.
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Honestly, the country needs revenue and millions of people shop online. They NEED to tax online sales. (U.S. really needs to raise taxes in general, but that hedges on prohibited talk...)

Everyone will whine and complain but it is a guaranteed eventuality.
 
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you (the buyer) is obligated to pay the sales tax back to the state

thats what i would say if i were amazon. then they would be completely within the right
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Personally, I hate to see this. Because I am a cheap A-hole.
I do understand the reasoning behind this though. Before I see this, I would rather see the government work to be more efficient in all other areas of operations. Like, their own salaries and pensions and stuff. Not trying to turn this into a political thread, just stating a short opinion.

As far as what do I actually pay tax on, well, Newegg has a warehouse in Tn (Memphis) so I pay sales tax on anything I purchase from them anyway. This is also the reason I will buy something off of TD instead though. Oddly enough, BB has done a really good job lately about having a better price on the items I am purchasing than Newegg and some others. I pay sales tax there too.

All of that to say, while I would like to see this not pass for my own immediate personal wallet, I don't think this would be detrimental to the online shopping overall. As long as this is a company to consumer tax only. I strongly oppose consumer to consumer sales tax! (like buying from an individual off of ebay or something, or even here on OCN)

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This stinks, but I see why they want to do it.

On a side note I wish our prices in the US were "tax included" like most European items redface.gif
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I don't oppose paying taxes to my state (Lord knows MI needs them). I just hate to see who is backing this (corporations) and realising what this is really about. Just another example of politicians being owned and controlled by corporate greed. The only reason this is seeing the light of day is these companies believe we will all move back to buying from them if they can force us to pay tax on online purchases.
 
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I don't know anything about the American tax system, but I can't see the likes of Amazon, Google, Apple & Microsoft laying down and taking this....

Nor do I. Hell, many "tax professionals" don't know about the tax system. We have more loopholes than any one person can possibly exploit. Raising taxes is one thing, eliminating entitlement programs and reducing external support is another.
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I always figured that the tradeoff to taxes on internet purchases was that we wouldn't get it instantly like you would if the item was bought in the store. If this goes through, I admit I'll miss it, but it's not going to make me start going to Wal-mart. Even with a sales tax, I still believe online prices are cheaper.
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