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here in ontario we have a harmonized sales tax, no matter where in canada i spend money i get taxed the full 13 percent....

and if you buy electronics they tack on an "environmental fee"....

i can see this happening, your government only seems to care about taxing citizens.
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Wrong, government needs to spend the money more wisely first. Then is there still isn't enough left, then you tax. The way of thinking in this country is "who is going to pay for this?" when it should be "how are we going to better handle our finances to afford this". Middle class Americans know how to manage their income, why can't the federal government.

Couldn't lay it out more simply! if you look into all the projects the government is into, you'll find that the gov wastes so much money on the most idiotic things "National Science Foundation $350,000 grant to Perdue University researchers on how to improve your golf game.". So for someone to convince me that the government doesn't have enough money and they need to raise taxes. please do your research..
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So let me get this straight. If I'm in a state which collects taxes from bricks and mortar businesses, and I purchase something online from a business in a state which doesn't, that online business must collect taxes from me and hand them to my state? Is this right?
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So let me get this straight. If I'm in a state which collects taxes from bricks and mortar businesses, and I purchase something online from a business in a state which doesn't, that online business must collect taxes from me and hand them to my state? Is this right?

Hopefully...I don't think it has been spelled out. Nothing against Californians but I don't want my sales taxes from online purchases funding your schools and state highways.
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we dont need to raise taxes we need to cut spending. I dont go to my boss and say i need more money because i spend mine to quick, i spend my money based on my income.
Except you are not taking into account that our taxes are the lowest they have been in 20 years. They already decreased revenue, they need to bring it back up to pre-taxcut levels. It is also un wise to worry about a debt(deficit) while in a recession. As the govt cuts spending, jobs are eliminated and more people spend less, ie subsequent decrease in economic cashflow, leading to further recession. Worry about the deficit when the economy is half way OK and people have jobs. This Deficit focus is garbage, they are leading everyone around by their noses. lol

I also think the govt needs to re-allocate what is spent where and trim the fat A LOT, but they do need to increase income, not just from us or sales tax, the rich and super profitable companies also.

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Wrong, government needs to spend the money more wisely first. Then is there still isn't enough left, then you tax. The way of thinking in this country is "who is going to pay for this?" when it should be "how are we going to better handle our finances to afford this". Middle class Americans know how to manage their income, why can't the federal government.

I agree with the necessity to spend more intelligently, but the reality is that spending cuts are not going to reduce the negative imbalances in state and federal governments to 0. Unless you want a complete breakdown of basic services, which is what they are alluding to anyhow... The federal govt is over extended and cannot pay for all the services it currently provides. Instead of cutting certain services they cut teaching jobs (one of the first cuts) which is just dumb. They need to cut services and increase revenue. However voters are not OK with either measure. Everyone wants to eat the cake three times...

Also, middle class Americans don't try to feed half the people living in their neighborhood, support the armed services, and regulate international trade. Sort of like comparing managing Microsoft to managing a corner deli... Not really apt


Edit@ Flynn.. I realize golf is a stupid expenditure, however, The federal govt does not determine who gets NSF funds, the members of each respective board at NSF do. If they cut funds to NSF then we have REAL PROBLEMS.


20 bucks says i get an infraction for this post.... rolleyes.gif
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It may have already been stated, but several states have a "Use Tax" in place already. If you shop online, you are "required" to claim that in your state taxes, so they get their cut. Problem is, it's an optional field and a lot of people don't fill it out. As much as I don't want the extra cost, I'm partially OK with this being mandated.
 
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Here in Kentucky when you file your income tax you're required to pay a "Use tax" on anything purchased on the internet or out of state.
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I actually support taxes when done properly, they are absolutely necessary.

Here in Oregon we don't have a sales tax, except for small towns like Ashland, OR that implement their own. Instead we have a really high income tax, which really suck! What you end up with are situations where people like myself pay a significant tax on our ENTIRE income, while free-loaders don't pay a penny in taxes. If you put the tax at the sales level, then everyone would pay their fair share of taxes. States like Nevada, at least when I lived there, didn't have taxes on "necessities" , meats, vegetables, etc. They did have taxes on smokes, alcohol, sugary foods, clothing. I actually really enjoyed not paying a huge income tax, and only paying taxes on products I purchased.

It actually wouldn't be that difficult for large billion dollar companies to implement a system that automatically charges taxes based off the billing address/shipping address used in the purchase process. These systems already exist, and are actually already in place with places like Amazon. They only have it active where legally obligated, like someone making a purchase in a state that collects tax and that the retailer operates in.
    
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I actually support taxes when done properly, they are absolutely necessary.

Here in Oregon we don't have a sales tax, except for small towns like Ashland, OR that implement their own. Instead we have a really high income tax, which really suck! What you end up with are situations where people like myself pay a significant tax on our ENTIRE income, while free-loaders don't pay a penny in taxes. If you put the tax at the sales level, then everyone would pay their fair share of taxes. States like Nevada, at least when I lived there, didn't have taxes on "necessities" , meats, vegetables, etc. They did have taxes on smokes, alcohol, sugary foods, clothing. I actually really enjoyed not paying a huge income tax, and only paying taxes on products I purchased.

It actually wouldn't be that difficult for large billion dollar companies to implement a system that automatically charges taxes based off the billing address/shipping address used in the purchase process. These systems already exist, and are actually already in place with places like Amazon. They only have it active where legally obligated, like someone making a purchase in a state that collects tax and that the retailer operates in.

I love all the surveys that show pretty much overwhelming public support for a federal sales tax and not have an income tax. Never will happen though.
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I don't know anything about the American tax system, but I can't see the likes of Amazon, Google, Apple & Microsoft laying down and taking this....

Amazon already has.
Cali, and a few other states have had Sales tax for the past year or so.

And Arizona just wont a lawsuit against amazon forcing them to pay 5 million or so in backed sales tax and to charge it on any item purchased from amazon stock from within AZ.

Ive always been ok with paying it even though its somewhat high here in AZ for obvious reasons.
Govt cant run without some cash moneys.

Im in favor of a nationwide online sales tax, and then B&M tax decided by the state.
But that would be a nasty mix of federal law controlling the states and/or states actually agreeing on something.
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