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I am being told in another thread my PSU is garbage. That's fine. I got it for free with my previous GPU anyways.

It seems I have always needed more voltage to OC my CPU. I have always blamed it on not having a golden chip like everyone else. Could this have been caused by a poor quality CPU? Will I have to redo my OC? Could I possibly get a higher OC with a lower voltage because I have a better PSU?
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It's very likely. This PSU truly is garbage:

 

http://www.overclock.net/t/652549/on-thermaltake-psus

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I was wondering if someone can explain this to me in technical terms but yet, break it down. biggrin.gif

I got my PSU today and bumped my voltage down by .1, to start off with, and its passing Prime95. Why did my old TR2-600W suck and why is this one making my PSU stable with lower voltage?
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I was wondering if someone can explain this to me in technical terms but yet, break it down. biggrin.gif

I got my PSU today and bumped my voltage down by .1, to start off with, and its passing Prime95. Why did my old TR2-600W suck and why is this one making my PSU stable with lower voltage?

You got the Rosewill Tachyon on sale right?
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I got the CAPSTONE.
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Oh well both are good

Anyway there are a areas i can tell you about the where the Capstone is better

One is in the components used the Capstone is a Super Flower Golden Green rebranded and Super Flower is known for using high quality components in their PSU´s for an example they use japanese capacitors and let me quote what Super Flower claims the Golden Green has and can do

Supports all Intel and AMD Dual Core and Quad core and its compatible Motherboards, ATX/BTX compliant.

★Supports Intel Core i7-980X / Core i7 / Core i5 / Core 2 Quad / Core 2 Duo &AMD Phenom II X6 / Phenom II X4 / Phenom II X3 / Athlon 64 X2series chip set.

★EPS 12V Ver2.92

★Patent black color connector, easy plug-in design, safe and firmly attached.

★Fit in with EuP(Energy-using Products) instructions / U.S.A Energy Star standards: energy consumption during shut off status less than 1W

★PCI-E power plugs are setup in a 6+2 configuration for the latest graphic cards and Compatible with every brand.

★Patent 14cm LED Low Noise Fan, Great air flow for exceptional heat dissipation.

★Passed 80 PLUS® Gold Certification, on 20% 50% 100% loading, with 89% 90% 87% Transform Efficiency.

★Full Range APFC, support 100V~250V.

★Patent high power and low consumption transformer / Patent dual voltage circuit with intelligence thermal control system (Patent applying for U.S.A, Taiwan, Mainland China and other countries)

★Solid state Capacitance is used for longer lasting and higher reliability.

★Extend Output Capacitance are used for higher stability and longer lasting.

★Multiple Protection Design:OVP,OPP,SCP

★Switches on/off test for more than 2000 times.

★Multiple safety certificates acquired.

★Extend Output Capacitance are used for higher stability and longer lasting.

★All series are made of RoSH unleaded green material.

Last about the Golden Green the electrical ripple on the unit is very good

Now lets talk about your old TR-2 and this one i dont know very much about as i dont know which one you had so that is way its going to be shorter but its either made by HEC or CWT

The build quality is not very god it is made more or less as cheapy as possible with as many cheap components as they can and they probably use chinese capacitors add all that and the electrical ripple is going to be like looking at a richter scale duing a 8.0 earthquake and on top of that it lacks some modern industry standard fails safes

All in all the TR-2 are trash
Edited by shilka - 3/26/13 at 6:08am
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post #7 of 7
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Originally Posted by SightUp View Post

I was wondering if someone can explain this to me in technical terms but yet, break it down. biggrin.gif

I got my PSU today and bumped my voltage down by .1, to start off with, and its passing Prime95. Why did my old TR2-600W suck and why is this one making my PSU stable with lower voltage?

 

Because the Rosewill Capstone is delivering a quality of power that is much cleaner, quieter, and much more stable. The TR2 delivers dirty, noisy, and unstable power which makes it more difficult to achieve stability and this usually requires higher voltages to be used in order to compensate for this terrible quality of power.

 

I don't know of any other way to explain it yet. All good PSUs like the Capstone Series are like this. ;) This is one of the many reasons for the high level of importance of getting a quality-made PSU. Another reason is your entire computer is much safer when it's being powered by a good PSU vs. a crappy one like the TR2 because of that high-quality of the power it's receiving. Sensitive electronics don't last as long when the power they're receiving is dirty, noisy and unstable. So when it's clean, quiet and stable, they can last as long as they're designed to last (a very long time) instead of not lasting that long.

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250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
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250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
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Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
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