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Energy has to go somewhere.

Typically a case is designed to dissipate any extra energy (that it can't absorb itself) evenly across the wide, fairly sturdy back and sides of a phone where there are no real important functioning parts. The iPhone (or at least the one you are referring to) stupidly places glass right where that energy is going to go. Smart right?

Furthermore, your friend undoubtedly got the lighter version of the otterbox (along with every other iphone user ever, because they don't want to "ruin" the "perfect form factor" of their iphones rolleyes.gif). Lighter case = less energy can be absorbed without being transferred into the phone itself.


In general, even the lighter otterbox should protect a phone against NORMAL damages. That particular iPhone design is just poor.

Or they just don't like bulky cases. General attitude around here is a bit annoying.
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post #32 of 115
Jesus Christ guys...

Apple can't do anything right in your eyes. If this was a Samsung patent you'd all be collectively losing your **** with excitement.
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Jesus Christ guys...

Apple can't do anything right in your eyes. If this was a Samsung patent you'd all be collectively losing your **** with excitement.

Or... I'd be calling Samsung retarded, or anyone else for that matter who thought of such an asinine solution to a problem that is so easy to "fix" that it never should have existed to begin with.
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Jesus Christ guys...

Apple can't do anything right in your eyes. If this was a Samsung patent you'd all be collectively losing your **** with excitement.

Remember the thread a few weeks ago? "Galaxy S4 screen rumored to be unbreakable"? People lost their minds with excitement and most took it as fact. Look how that worked out, yet nobody has mentioned it.

I have no idea why most here can't appreciate that iPhone users like the form factor of their phones. iPhone users appreciate that Android users like their customisability, it's just not important to us. Yet the reversal has an almost holy-war level of vengeance attached, it's incredibly immature.

On-topic - The iPhone 5 is actually really strong, I haven't seen or heard of one break yet. Interesting patent here, but it sounds like one of these 'secure something early so that when we can actually make it we own it' patents which are rife nowadays.
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Or... I'd be calling Samsung retarded, or anyone else for that matter who thought of such an asinine solution to a problem that is so easy to "fix" that it never should have existed to begin with.
Since you seem to be smarter than people who develop these phones - how would you go about making a phone on par with those around today whilst making it drop-proof? Feel free to prove you're smarter than the extremely smart engineers employed by Samsung, HTC, Apple, Google and so on...
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Furthermore, your friend undoubtedly got the lighter version of the otterbox (along with every other iphone user ever, because they don't want to "ruin" the "perfect form factor" of their iphones rolleyes.gif). Lighter case = less energy can be absorbed without being transferred into the phone itself.

You're probably right about him having had the lighter version of the Otterbox. I wasn't even aware there were different versions, but I do remember seeing it and thinking that it looked a bit on the flimsy side.

I'm not a cell phone aficionado, and I've admittedly never even owned an Apple product. I will admit that I like the way the phone looks with the glass front and back, and think it would be nice if Apple could find some way to preserve the looks while adding increased durability. But judging by that article, the methods that they're pursuing are not as elegant as what I've come to assume is a standard for Apple.
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You're probably right about him having had the lighter version of the Otterbox. I wasn't even aware there were different versions, but I do remember seeing it and thinking that it looked a bit on the flimsy side.

I'm not a cell phone aficionado, and I've admittedly never even owned an Apple product. I will admit that I like the way the phone looks with the glass front and back, and think it would be nice if Apple could find some way to preserve the looks while adding increased durability. But judging by that article, the methods that they're pursuing are not as elegant as what I've come to assume is a standard for Apple.

Do you know which version of the iPhone your friend had?

From the drop tests I've seen, the 5 looks a lot more durable than the 4 and 4s.
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You're probably right about him having had the lighter version of the Otterbox. I wasn't even aware there were different versions, but I do remember seeing it and thinking that it looked a bit on the flimsy side.

I'm not a cell phone aficionado, and I've admittedly never even owned an Apple product. I will admit that I like the way the phone looks with the glass front and back, and think it would be nice if Apple could find some way to preserve the looks while adding increased durability. But judging by that article, the methods that they're pursuing are not as elegant as what I've come to assume is a standard for Apple.

They make 2 versions for most phones, 3 for a select few (usually the lightest of the 3 is the one that is missing, and shouldn't even really be considered an "otterbox" or "case" so much as decoration, which is what most other cases for iPhones also amount to in an attempt to preserve the form factor).
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Do you know which version of the iPhone your friend had?

From the drop tests I've seen, the 5 looks a lot more durable than the 4 and 4s.

4 or 4s, judging by it having an easily broken glass back side.

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Since you seem to be smarter than people who develop these phones - how would you go about making a phone on par with those around today whilst making it drop-proof? Feel free to prove you're smarter than the extremely smart engineers employed by Samsung, HTC, Apple, Google and so on...

I don't need to be smarter than their engineers, there are plenty of phones that ALREADY don't easily break. It's already known how and been done. The Casio Commando is a recent, albeit extreme example.

Most flagship phones just do not incorporate this known and obvious knowledge, because it would reduce sales. Even in those cases, the solution on the consumer's side of things is quite simple, buy a case, and stop kicking your phone like a football.

And before your knee-jerk reaction about cases/current sturdy phones being too bulky, take half a second to consider how much bulk adding hydroponic air foils, gas propellant canisters, and internal mass-shifting weights (and the large hallow spaces they require) will add to a phone, never mind the massive increase in battery size you would need to power all those silly features.

That's not even getting into all the other (non bulk-related) issues with these concepts, such as added points of failure, additional up-front costs, added cost of upkeep and maintenance, aesthetic compromises, false alarms, and ironically the fact that it would prevent users from using cases.
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Most flagship phones just do not incorporate this known and obvious knowledge, because it would reduce sales. Even in those cases, the solution on the consumer's side of things is quite simple, buy a case, and stop kicking your phone like a football.

And before your knee-jerk reaction about cases/current sturdy phones being too bulky, take half a second to consider how much bulk adding hydroponic air foils, gas propellant canisters, and internal mass-shifting weights (and the large hallow spaces they require) will add to a phone, never mind the massive increase in battery size you would need to power all those silly features.

That's not even getting into all the other (non bulk-related) issues with these concepts, such as added points of failure, additional up-front costs, added cost of upkeep and maintenance, aesthetic compromises, false alarms, and ironically the fact that it would prevent users from using cases.

They reason they don't incorporate these extra areas is because they care about form factor. The iPhone 5 is rather tough, it doesn't need any extra added to it. You can make something strong AND with a good form factor. Cases are not a necessity for an iPhone 5, I know this from experience. You'll dent the metal long before you smash the screen. My Desire HD was the same. At its release date it was a good form factor and anyone who has one will know it's a tank, it was well designed and didn't need a case.

Apple wouldn't compromise on the form factor - it's their selling point. You're doing that instant assumption thing people do towards Apple, where if they patent something, you assume that it WILL be done. They have obviously patented this for future use. And 10 years ago the idea of a smartphone like we have now was nothing but a dream. In 10 years, the technology to do what this patent suggests may exist. It's protecting an idea, not the promise to make it.

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So wait... the next iPhone is going to be the size and shape of a small RC airplane and will require refueling after accidental drops and/or car rides?

Because... that's the logical conclusion, instead of just NOT putting glass on every outer-most contact point, and maybe putting the thing in a case that covers more than the very back of the phone?

Have you seen the iPhone 5? It has no glass on any contact points. The single-piece metal back and bumper are great for drop protection. Apple didn't anticipate how often people drop their phones, so why don't you say "Good on Apple for realising this and making a stronger and smaller device!" as opposed to bringing up past design flaws. We live in the current, not in the past.

I am curious as to why you assume the current iPhone breaks easily?
Edited by Monstrous - 3/21/13 at 7:31pm
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