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Hi, I have HP Pavilion p7-1154 that I've heavily modified for better performance. What I want to do is overclock the APU further than I've already done. For that I will need an aftermarket cooler. The deal with this is that I have an AMD FM1 socket A8-3870k unlocked APU on the stock HP motherboard which doesn't have a typical AMD mounting pattern. It actually has the mounting pattern of an Intel socket 1156! Which is 75mm x 75mm, definitely not an AMD pattern!!

Here is the dilemma - if I use an Intel socket 1156 mounting will it be the right height for the correct fit (pressure on the APU) on an AMD FM1 socket APU?

Here are my specs.
*HP AAHD3-HB (Hibiscus) made by Pegatron (ASUS) motherboard
The motherboard BIOS does not support overclocking or AMD Dual Graphics
*AMD 3870k APU (@ 3000 OC’d to 3300 using AMD OverDrive)
*Radeon 6770 HD GPU
*Silverstone 500w 80Plus Bronze Modular PSU
*16GB Corsair 1600 DDR3 RAM
*2x Crucial M4 265GB SSD’s in Stripe (RAID 0)
*1 WD Velociraptor 600GB 10,000 RPM HDD

Thank You for any ideas or comments,
Mike
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post #2 of 10
Just buy a new motherboard and call it a day...
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Thanks for your respose Vispor,

I was going to do that in fact. I had cancelled an order for an ASUS F1A75-M PRO R2.0, realizing that much of my software is linked to this HP motherboard. But you are correct, this motherboard is really limitting me to what I want.

I plan on doing a complete new build in the near future. AMD will be my choice. All I need to do is decide on the kind of build I want ( i.e. An A10 5800k Trinity APU or an FX-8350 Vishera CPU). But for right now I am obsessed with doing the most with what I have.

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post #4 of 10
Usually you can still buy a new motherboard and put it in your current case. You'll have to figure out how to wire up the power button and what not, but everything else should be good. You can get a FM2 board for CHEAP. Just save your money and the headache and get a mobo. That chip running at 3.3 on a stock cooler will be perfectly fine. Odds are you could lower the volts and still be stable at that speed... if you didn't have an OEM mobo.
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Last night I took out the unlocked A8-3870k (stock @ 3.0GHz OC'd to 3.3 GHz - w/AMD OverDrive it BSOD'd @ 3.4GHz) and replaced it with a locked A8-3850 - it's stock speed of 2.9Hhz now running @ 3.6GHz using AMD OverDrive! So now I am using that with an increase in performance from 7.4 to 7.5 In the Windows Exoerience Index!! And it is running @ 47 degrees C where the A8-3870k was @ 50 degrees C with stock cooling and under 100% load! Maybe I could try lowering the volts on this to cool it down a bit more.

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Sell the 3870k now. wink.gif
post #7 of 10
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I did think of that or build a system with the A8-3870k on a real motherboard with a bios that allows overclocking. This may turn out OK. I really want to build something with more power like an A10-5800k using AMD Dual Graphics combined with AMD Crossfire(using the GPU on the chip and 2 other discrcete graphics cards) or to build a system with an FX- 8350 Piledriver (Vishera) processor.
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There's is no way for me to prove that so don't take my word but my guess is that they use 1156 mounting holes so that they only have to use a single cooler for all their platforms which cuts the development costs. Therefore, you should be able to use an LGA 1156 cooler with your board.

Honestly though, as many have said, your best bet is a new motherboard...
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Than You for your comments. I will try that out. I'm in the process of possibly getting an Asus F1A75-M Pro R2.0, it depends when I can afford it. I just purchased a new case, a new, unused, open box Fractal Design ARC Mini for a song!

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Looks pretty much like a custom built system, except for the motherboard tongue.gif I'd switch that out first and get a new Motherboard, and if possible get a new chip with it and swtich to a whole newer motherboard platform. and if you game a lot then later on update the GPU and you're good.
   
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