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im prepared to pay extra for reliabilty. does the msi twin frozer have unlocked voltage i wonder?
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im prepared to pay extra for reliabilty. does the msi twin frozer have unlocked voltage i wonder?

I have heard most "newer" cards have been voltage locked but that is something you will have to take a chance. I had a hard time sorting that out wither a card was voltage locked or not as well.
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Most reliable would have to be a reference card and since its reference it would be volt unlocked cuz that is the reference design as specified by AMD. If I can give ya one tip, it would be to avoid ghz/boost cards like the plague.
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thanks ffor the tip why avoid the ghz card? im seriously considering msi twin frozer III, or the saphire 7950
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thanks ffor the tip why avoid the ghz card? im seriously considering msi twin frozer III, or the saphire 7950


It's because of the way the bios works. They are volt locked to a maximum of 1.25v which by itself doesn't seem so bad. However, you cannot really control the voltage most of the times so it's just 1.25v on paper. That said, there's no reason to get a ghz card in the first place. It was just a counter to the kepler boost to close the gap on benchmarks. In reality you don't need it cuz it's a painlessly small overclock that all tahiti chips can reach easily. That said, the number of regular olf non-boosting cards is getting real slim so finding one may be tough.
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gigabyte HD 7950 now comes with a 1 Ghz boost clock and locked voltage. asus cards too are voltage locked. here are other good options

Sapphire HD 7950 boost
http://www.mwave.com.au/product/sku-aa78463-sapphire_radeon_hd_7950_overclocked_3gb_video_card_with_boost

Powercolor HD 7950 boost
http://www.mwave.com.au/product/sku-ab48339-powercolor_amd_radeon_hd7950_3gb_boost_state_video_card_uefi_ready
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1311&products_id=22838

You couldn't be any more false about the 7950 DCII. I just bought a second one, and both are voltage unlocked. I'll quickly just copy paste what I said in another thread as to why the DCII is better than the MSI or sapphire card.

"If you can afford the slot, get the DCII from Asus. (Make sure its V2). Guaranteed unlocked Bios, awesome VRM cooling (Took my card apart today), and looks fantastic. Its uber quiet too.

Look at this:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7950-review-benchmark,3207-10.html

This is the outdated 7950 DCII which has one less heatpipe and worse VRM cooling (Which is why I said to get the V2 which has the 7970 DCII cooler on it) and it beats the MSI card by 1 to 3 degrees or more. Which isn't alot for the slot space you give up, until you look at the next page:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-7950-review-benchmark,3207-11.html

34.8 dBA compared to 39.1 dBA. This shows that the 7950 TFIII is almost four times as loud as the 7950 DCII (every 3 dBA more represents a double in noise)

Think about it. Also, no particular brand really has better overclockers, its the lottery that counts. People only say TFIII is a better overclocker because most people who own a 7950 probably have the MSI version. Of course, this depends completely upon the fact if you get a 7970 PCB. A 7970 PCB will most likely overclock better, but if you keep the standard 7950 PCB, you'll have the same chance of getting a bad overclock as the others."
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The 7950 is the better buy around 5/6% slower but 25/30% cheaper, go with a good brand Like Gigabyte, Asus, MSI, Sapphire avoid XFX, VT3D, Powercolor.
I have a Asus DCII V2 (7870 though) and i can tell you its very quiet and does not heat at all its a solid card.
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The 7950 is the better buy around 5/6% slower but 25/30% cheaper, go with a good brand Like Gigabyte, Asus, MSI, Sapphire avoid XFX, VT3D, Powercolor.
I have a Asus DCII V2 (7870 though) and i can tell you its very quiet and does not heat at all its a solid card.

Yes, I only wish they put more backplates on their cards... only thing ruining most of their DCII coolers (Aside from the 670, 680 and 7970).
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oh man i am now not so sure, but also grateful, to be honest i originally wanted the asus DCU II top edition just thought it wasnt any better than the msi or others but always had good experience with asus.
the spare slots dont bother me as i dont run any peripheral cards except an old wifi g card just on the rare occasion i need to use my phones wifi hotspot when cable internet is down but i can always USB tethering for this. anyways im more towards the asus card now still seen alot of good things bout the msi but asus cards just seem so solid... can you buy aftermarket back plates as im thinking this thing might flex like hell... i mean an 11 inch card just sitting in there .. alot of weight.
on a side note im seriously thinking.. "should i just save for a 7970 asus DCU and be done with it"? i mean would so rather not spend that much but i am saving so what is 2-4 more weeks saving?
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I say go for the Asus 7950 DCII V2 make sure is a V2 Edition that is important cause V1 had problems with the cooler. Gigabyte WindForce3 is also pretty good, MSI i heard the fans fail a lot so for me is Gigabyte or Asus.
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