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SOFTWARE giant Microsoft has admitted it slugs Australian customers significantly more for its products in a federal committee today and said if customers didn't like it they would "vote with their wallets".

Microsoft became the latest international technology company to face the House of Representatives committee into information technology prices this afternoon, following evidence from Adobe and Apple.

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I don't know a single person who has ever bought adobe software and it's no surprise why.
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Econ 101: Charge what the market will bear.

Not saying it's a cool move, but eh, corporations.
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Econ 101: Charge what the market will bear.

Not saying it's a cool move, but eh, corporations.

Yep thats true and since everyone's doing it there's no real way to fight back. Sure theres linux but not many people want to take the time to learn how to use it.
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We only pay your stupid prices because we have no other alternatives. Its a bit ridiculous to say "if people didn't like it they would vote with their wallets" when most of the software you make has little to no competition/alternatives.

Especially as a student, I need MS Office in order to do my work and assignments and ensure that everything is formatted correctly as per the marking criteria. I am aware that there are alternatives out there that are free, however I also need to use MS templates from time-to-time along with the fact that everything is just easier in Office because there's a large amount of documentation and its the word processing software that all my educational institutions have used for years. Plus, then I don't have compatibility issues.

Then lets look as Windows, what my alternative to Windows you ask? Oh that's right, OSX! Who created OSX? Apple? Who else is also part of this inquiry into price gouging? Oh that's right, Apple!

So either way your wallet is getting raped! Its just whether MS or Apple are the ones taking all your bloody cash.
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I don't know a single person who has ever bought adobe software and it's no surprise why.

you have to if you run a business and i know i have, certainly not pleased with its price though but its not something you cant earn back from the profits you make
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yeah looks like we gonna continue to be shafted regularly for software and hardware. heard on the radio today apple reason for charging more on itunes in australia.. because the artist charges them more so their wholesale buying cost is more... hold on they buy each peice of music multiple times for eacch seperate country??? (sarcasm)...
i dont think they do im pretty sure they only buy it once
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you have to if you run a business and i know i have, certainly not pleased with its price though but its not something you cant earn back from the profits you make

I'm aware that a business would have to buy a legit key, but at least they can get that back on tax.
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Econ 101: Charge what the market will bear.

Not saying it's a cool move, but eh, corporations.

Not really true in this case.

I am a firm believer that the biggest issue in Australia is price-fixing. That is exactly what these large corporations are doing. They fix their prices, not charge what the market will bear. What they are doing is criminal and I sincerely hope this investigation leads to some federal court action against the bastards.

Plus, if we wanted to start looking at that as a reflection on prices then the guys in the US should be paying more than us. Since you have more expendable income out of your total income compared with Australia. Despite the fact that we have a higher overall nominal per capita GDP (in the top 10 on all sources).

People in the US have one of highest levels of expendable income in the world because everything there is relatively cheap (housing, power, water, fuel etc.). So in principle, the US market actually has far more capacity to bear higher prices than we do in Australia.

This is plain and simple price gouging/fixing. No matter which way you slice it. Its a disgrace and I hope the federal government finally grows some balls and takes action
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Not really true in this case.

I am a firm believer that the biggest issue in Australia is price-fixing. That is exactly what these large corporations are doing. They fix their prices, not charge what the market will bear. What they are doing is criminal and I sincerely hope this investigation leads to some federal court action against the bastards.

Do you really believe that there's been actual collusion between competing companies to maintain prices at a certain level? That's what price-fixing is.

Or is it that are you merely complaining that companies have independently figured out how high they can set their prices and still generate sufficient sales?
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Do you really believe that there's been actual collusion between competing companies to maintain prices at a certain level? That's what price-fixing is.

Or is it that are you merely complaining that companies have independently figured out how high they can set their prices and still generate sufficient sales?

I genuinely believe they collude. It happens in the tech industry all the time, happens in big business in all facets of life (recently even cardboard manufacturers were caught colluding and fixing prices here). So I absolutely believe they are colluding.

As do the middle men. The worst part about boxed video games/software in this country is that the middle men take a HUGE cut on the price and drive prices up. Not only that, but there are only a few big players.

I know some guys who work in the IT industry and work for one of Australia's biggest hardware e-tailers (if not the biggest etailer), they are in direct competition with an asian hardware chain who are known for their cheaper prices than anywhere else in the country (sometimes considerably cheaper).

When I asked why the etailer he works for can't match their prices, he said its plainly and simply because the asian run retailer have a large number on contacts who work as middle men and fix the prices so that that particular chain get cheaper wholesale prices whilst the other retailers in the country have to pay significantly higher wholesale prices. He gave me an example of GTX480 prices (when they were just released) and the asian retailer were paying about 15% less for the wholesale price despite the fact that this etailer would sell a very similar volume (if not more) than the asian retailer.

So I genuinely think MS, Apple, Adobe, Autodesk etc. collude and fix prices. It happens everywhere in this country because our government is spineless and doesn't look more seriously into the IT industry.
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