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Thanks for all the replies, such a great forum!!

Which Piledriver CPU is most cost effective and will handle decent level gaming?

What is the price difference like when changing to a different GPU? I was looking at the HD 5770 because it was cheap but looks like it still performs.

fx-6300

When changing GPU? The cost of the new GPU...
I dunno how much you're planning on paying for the 5770, but make sure it is less than $110, the price of a new 7770:
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=193_1343&products_id=22476

P.S. A reasonable fx-6300 option will only run you about $25 more than the locked i5 solution I posted above and will perform about the same.

CPU (~$145)
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=187_345&products_id=21808

mobo (~$105)
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=138_803&products_id=18040

Heatsink (at least $35)
http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=207_23_312&products_id=18670
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go for fx8320 with amd 7xxx series graphics
    
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Yea,

I would love to but today I realised that I have a bunch of new ongoing expenses and so my budget may be crappier than first expected.

That's another reason for AMD. I am looking at piledriver chips, but my old pc was a bulldozer 8120 and I never got to see her really perform as I had 4Gb RAM and a crappy NVIDIA GeForce 8400.

I am going to drop the liquid cooling... for now (Will get that further down the track when I can afford a Nicer piledriver chip. Does anyone know the upgrade path there? Are they staying with the AM3+ After Piledriver or will it be a new socket? Because if it is a new socket I may as well just settle for less now as I will need a new Mobo in 8 months or whatever when I have the cash to make a nice AMD beast and dont want to spend coin on a nice CPU/mobo that I will be replacing.

IF however the AM3+ Socket stays in use I will go for a nicer chip now as I wont need to replace the Mobo later.

Will take a look at the Thermaltake Commander MS-II or MS-III cause I do live in Aus, however I am from WA and our choice of PC part stores here is crap and all the aus websites are a bit costly.
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That Sapphire 7770 looks nice, and 100 bucks is cheap! Although I heard the sapphires are not as good a performer as a standard HD 7xxx
post #15 of 32
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Anyone have an opinion on the AsRock Fatal1ty 990FX-Professional Mobo.

It suits my black/red theme and looks like a really nice mobo and isn't too costly.
Edited by RedemptionBlue - 3/25/13 at 12:28am
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new generation and around 10-15% faster
    
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Here are the changes I'd personally make:

  • Motherboard: you can find a decent one here that is probably better than the bundled ASRock board.
  • Processor: Don't get the 8120. The 8320 is a MUCH better chip, and is only ~$15 more. With the 8320 and the board above, you're at $265; $10 less ($20 with MIR) than the ASRock/8120 bundle.
  • Memory: If you're gaming, you'll see a benefit if you get 1866 MHz memory instead of 1600. The Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) 1866 here is the same price ($64.99) as the 1600 version you had picked out.
  • Graphics: definitely try to swing at least a 7850 or GTX 660 if you're planning on gaming. You're looking at like $140 for an HD 5770 and it's a very old card. Another $60 or so will bump you up to a 7850 or a GTX 660.
  • PSU: you shouldn't need more than a 650W, and even that would be a bit overkill. However, for only a few bucks more (like $15), you can get a 650W instead of something like a 550W and have the ability to expand on the system a little bit later without rebuying a new PSU. You can find a good one here for $70. It's 620W, but it's SeaSonic, and those are usually listed as a lower wattage than that actually are. VERY high quality PSUs from SeaSonic, and it's 80 Plus Bronze.
  • Case: This one seems decent for $50, but you might consider something with a little more cable management if you have the budget. Red with red LEDs, should have decent airflow, and has an external 3.5" bay.
  • Cooling: If not overclocking, just pick up a CoolerMaster Hyper 212+ for $30. If you want to do a little overclocking, a Corsair H80i or Antec 920 will server you well for ~$100. They aren't red, but you can't really get that with closed loop systems, and a custom loop is going to be quite expensive and require some water cooling experience to get going. You could get the Swiftech H220 and put red tubing on it like I did, but you'd need (most likely) a full tower case for dual 120mm radiator support, and you're getting into some big bucks there for both the H220 and accommodating case.

You can of course do what you'd like, but these are just the things I'd do differently. Happy building! thumb.gif
Edited by Clowerweb - 3/25/13 at 12:53am
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Anyone have an opinion on the AsRock Fatal1ty 990FX-Professional Mobo.

It suits my black/red theme and looks like a really nice mobo and isn't too costly.

It's a solid board,will support a healthy overclock. If you could get one I'd recommend the new 990FX Extreme 9 though,better voltage regulation and overclocking features.
On the budget side I would rec. the Asus M5A97 EVO,as it has 6 phase VRM vs 4 phase for most budget boards.
AM3+ socket is here to stay for the future.Also you should consider a FM2 socket with the A8 5600K and a dedicated GPU for a cheaper option than the Piledriver CPU's. The A8 will run all the games you mention just fine.

HD 7770 is more than adequate for a single 1080P monitor.
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I have two FX rigs a FX-8120 and a FX-8350 and really in the real world ether one would be a good gaming CPU. It all depends on cost and what you can afford. Having said that if you can swing it get the FX-8350 as said it is newer and AMD's top CPU at this time and as I have found out has no problems keeping up with my i5 3570K in every game I have played.

If you can swing it I would get a Sapphire HD 7950 or Sapphire Hd 7970 GPU I have both and they are great GPU's. If I had known how bad Nvidia had dropped the ball on there drivers I would have staid with AMD/ATI GPU's on my i5 build because these GTX 670's just are not as good as my Crossfire 7950's in my AMD FX-8120 or FX-8350 rigs.

If you are really set on water cooling I would suggest a kit like the XSPC Raystorm 750 RX360 http://www.frozencpu.com/products/18763/ex-wat-245/XSPC_Raystorm_750_RX360_Extreme_Universal_CPU_Water_Cooling_Kit_New_Rev_4_Pump_Includedw_Free_Dead-Water.html?tl=g30c321s1310 . It has everything you would need minus the coolant which you can add from the same page. I have this kit in both of my FX rigs and the one in my FX-8120 has been running for two years and is a older version that I have upgraded with the new pump and block. It was surprisingly easy to install if you take the time.

I have the ASUS Crosshair V Formula-Z http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131876 in my FX-8350 rig and it has been very good and would fit in your black and red theme very good as well.
 
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Ok folks, here are my options the way I see it now...

I have been offered a nice deal by an OC.net member to sell me their Phenom II 965, ASUS M4A88T-M Mobo and HD 5770 for $200.

That will still run the sort of games I want to play for now. I will definitely be wanting a better PC later on in the year but Life has just thrown me some unexpected extra ongoing costs that have hurt my budget.

The rig I am still planning on getting once I save the money is:

CPU
AMD Fx 8320

Mobo
AsRock 970 Extreme4 OR;
AsRock Fatal1ty 990Fx Professional - This one depends on how much money I end up managing to set aside for my rig

GPU
Powercolour Radeon HD7770

RAM
Corsair Vengence 1x8 OR 2x8Gb

Case
Thermaltake Black Commander MSII (Red)

PSU
Still don't know, probably some thermaltake 750W or something

Cooling
Either Corsair H80i or just a tonne of extra case fans.


Now that is my setup that I am going to save money for but I wont have that kind of cash for some time right now, SO I am considering this new idea that I can afford for until I get the coin for the other rig.

CPU
Phenom II 965

Mobo
ASUS M4A88T-M

GPU
Radeon HD 5770 - Can get all of these three for cheap from someone

RAM
1x8Gb Corsair Vengence (can use it in my new rig)

Case
Thermaltake Black Commander MSII (red) - (Can use in new rig)

PSU
Cheaper thermaltake or something. 650W maybe, no idea yet.

Cooling
Not liquid at this point, but need something so I can OC the Phenom.

Only issue I have is can that Mobo OC the Phenom II 965 very well? I heard they can push 4Ghz but I might need a better mobo for that.

Thanks for your help and responses
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