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Originally Posted by bigaluksys View Post

They rank by minimum fps. But there's tie on min fps between 7970 and 680, but 680 has the advantage on average, so I'm guessing it was just a mistake.
It's worth mentioning that they are sponsored by AMD

It seems like weak compute power was not the culprit of Kepler not doing so well with TressFX on.

both the 670 and 680 have higher fps averages than their counterparts, granted it's only fps, it's still a sneaky little tactic (especially since they are both the better performer)
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post #22 of 76
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Built in bench is far more reliable.

yet the average fps during gameplay is significantly higher on Nvidia (issue with my argument is that i'm only siting one source (the only source that's reported anything since the initial benchmarks with gameplay). Wouldn't be surprised if AMD made a benchmark that pretty much just caters to itself.....I mean, there's a whole lot more to the visuals than just Laura herself
Edited by lacrossewacker - 3/22/13 at 9:22am
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post #23 of 76
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Built in bench is far more reliable.

It's better at making sure all runs are equal but that's about it. What it's not good at is representing gameplay.

Built in benches can be cherry picked scenarios, optimized, etc.

Any good reviewers knows how to plan a test without using built in benches.
 
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post #24 of 76
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Built in bench is far more reliable.

The built-in benchmark is about as reliable as staring at the ground for 2 minutes of benchmark time. It is completely unrealistic.
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Wow this directly goes against [H]OCPs review... interesting. It would be cool to see another website do a performance review. SKYMTL up for it? biggrin.gif

What's cool is watching the HD7970GE match a HD6990! in performance! What a beast! HD5870 all over again. Another interesting note is how much less FPS you get using an FX chip, the best gets 15Fps less than my i5 2500k, having a CPU rob you of that Many FPS is pretty off putting. AMD needs a faster IPC.
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Wow this directly goes against [H]OCPs review... interesting. It would be cool to see another website do a performance review. SKYMTL up for it? biggrin.gif

What's cool is watching the HD7970GE match a HD6990! in performance! What a beast! HD5870 all over again. Another interesting note is how much less FPS you get using an FX chip, the best gets 15Fps less than my i5 2500k, having a CPU rob you of that Many FPS is pretty off putting. AMD needs a faster IPC.

benchmark vs gameplay

which is important?

This is just my own skepticism but I wouldn't be surprised if AMD had a hand in designing the benchmark for the sole purpose of inching the AMD cards a head (even though they're actually slower on average....look at that chart more closely (except for the GE edition..which is just as attainable with an overclocked 680))
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Wow this directly goes against [H]OCPs review... interesting. It would be cool to see another website do a performance review. SKYMTL up for it? biggrin.gif

What's cool is watching the HD7970GE match a HD6990! in performance! What a beast! HD5870 all over again. Another interesting note is how much less FPS you get using an FX chip, the best gets 15Fps less than my i5 2500k, having a CPU rob you of that Many FPS is pretty off putting. AMD needs a faster IPC.

Also, from the HARDCOP results, they tested with
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To test Tomb Raider we first played through the entire game. We looked for scenes, levels, or areas which produced lower framerates than others. Our run-through takes place at the location the "Chasm Ziggurat." This run-through takes place at the very end of the game, and incorporates all DX11 effects available in the game. We see tessellation on both our characters and the scenery. Lara's hair is also displayed with TressFX enabled close up and at a distance, and interacts with the wind. There is also extreme lighting and shadowing in this area, as well as depth of field being utilized. We start our testing procedure after climbing to the top of the chasm. We follow the path around the top, defeating two sets of enemies and going on to face a large storm guard, and eventually the protagonist Mathias. We stop our testing procedure after defeating Mathias and checking on Lara's friend. The entire run through takes between 7 and 8 minutes to complete


over 7-8 minutes, having a 20% higher performance overall is better representation of the performance than looking at laura's hair for a minute
Edited by lacrossewacker - 3/22/13 at 9:49am
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post #27 of 76
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Wow this directly goes against [H]OCPs review... interesting. It would be cool to see another website do a performance review. SKYMTL up for it? biggrin.gif

I am but only once things settle down. Every week there's a new patch which claims perf increases, meaning that any article posted now will be woefully out of date in no time at all.
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benchmark vs gameplay

which is important?

This is just my own skepticism but I wouldn't be surprised if AMD had a hand in designing the benchmark for the sole purpose of inching the AMD cards a head (even though they're actually slower on average....look at that chart more closely (except for the GE edition..which is just as attainable with an overclocked 680))
Well [H]OCP had questionable data in their review from the start and this just adds another bullet point to the list. One of them was your GTX670 being beaten almost 50% by a GTX680, are you going to say that is a fair representation of your cards performance?

I don't know what point you're trying to make with this but know that the 7970GE can also overclock and it does it very well.

But i'm with you on the fact that Gameplay> Benchmark. I'm just curious as to why [H]OCP has such weird number and would appreciate another party doing a review, a gameplay review.
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I am but only once things settle down. Every week there's a new patch which claims perf increases, meaning that any article posted now will be woefully out of date in no time at all.

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Wow this directly goes against [H]OCPs review... interesting. It would be cool to see another website do a performance review. SKYMTL up for it? biggrin.gif

What's cool is watching the HD7970GE match a HD6990! in performance! What a beast! HD5870 all over again. Another interesting note is how much less FPS you get using an FX chip, the best gets 15Fps less than my i5 2500k, having a CPU rob you of that Many FPS is pretty off putting. AMD needs a faster IPC.

[H]OCPs bench was way off...... Made no sense to me.
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Lara Croft looking like Sinead O'connor wouldn't do it for me, i'd have to say.

She looked notbad.jpg back in the old days. today, though...not so much tongue.gif

 
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