Originally Posted by jrl1357
once I learned more about the systemd and how it works I was kind of surprised they switched, and basically forced users to switch. On the mailing list they looked for people to volunteer if they wanted to see the old way still supported and it looked like some people stepped forward, but here less then a month later it's no longer in the repos.
as for the direction Linux is moving, I don't think the likes of Debian, Slackware and Gentoo are going down that road. Debian has been committed to supporting kFreeBSD and is unlikely to make systemd default any time soon for Linux, and I think a normal init system would be supported after that because all the package will be supportive of it anyway for kFreeBSD and Hurd. Slackware makes a big thing about how Unix it is, and doesn't look like it's going to start using grub and real package manager much less systemd. Gentoo has also clearly stated that the choice of systemd will always be on each user themselves. then again, a huge thing Arch used to say was it used BSD-style init scripts, and that it valued simplicity and correctness over all, so I guess we will see.
And that's my biggest problem. Systemd is nice and it actually does make quite a bit a lot
easier, but then it also makes a good bit a dang headache. Linux used to be about choice, now we're having things shoved down our throats when not all of the users like the change. There was a big uproar when systemd came out and the dev team and forum admins/mods were basically saying "just deal with it, it's happening because we say it is and because we
like it". I respect that it's their distro and all, but they still have to please their community, or at least should feel obliged to.
Systemd is just one example, but it's a great example. Because people didn't like it, and when they stepped up and said something, they were met with hostility.
And I like that Linux is becoming a viable gaming platform, but now you also have some distro's like Ubuntu, who are putting Amazon webstores built into their system and other similar instances.
WHY!? I understand they need to make money, but it shouldn't interfere with your work flow, and it shouldn't be forced onto you. If I open Unity and search for a program, I don't want books from amazon, I don't want software, I don't want videos, I don't want music, I just want my dang program. Ubuntu and a couple of others are going that direction and it's annoying. Sure you can go through the hassle of turning it off or removing it , but that's not the point. Point is it shouldn't be there in the first place unless the user wants it there, which basically circles back to the systemd fiasco among others. And furthermore, with Ubuntu and some of the other more popular distro's doing the whole webshop thing, they'll start to become the norm as they are the leaders in the general linux user desktop world, which is more reason to not have to put up with it.
Wow, this is starting to turn into a rant :|