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I know I'm just ranting here, but I can't bring myself to call the new Xbox and PS4 consoles anymore. From their spec sheets all the way to the leaked info about how the software works, it just seems that they are nothing more then general mid-range gaming PC's. x86 based, Installed games, Activation of games, etc. Probably the only thing they will lack is keyboard and mouse support!

My biggest gripe and question to you guys is this.....

How long will game designers be able to get away with not making PC versions of all the next gen games, when we KNOW for a fact that they can 100% run on PC from the start? Or do you think that in the coming years we will see a new trend of a title being available for all platforms since the architectures are the same? IMO, I don't think game designers can afford to ignore making PC versions anymore.

What are your thoughts?
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Well for one thing, I hope games get better multi threaded support.. 8 cores 1.6ghz on the ps4.


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I know I'm just ranting here, but I can't bring myself to call the new Xbox and PS4 consoles anymore. From their spec sheets all the way to the leaked info about how the software works, it just seems that they are nothing more then general mid-range gaming PC's. x86 based, Installed games, Activation of games, etc. Probably the only thing they will lack is keyboard and mouse support!

yeah they pretty much are mid-range PCs nowadays. and im pretty sure they do have keyboard support, dont know bout mouse though lol
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How long will game designers be able to get away with not making PC versions of all the next gen games, when we KNOW for a fact that they can 100% run on PC from the start? Or do you think that in the coming years we will see a new trend of a title being available for all platforms since the architectures are the same? IMO, I don't think game designers can afford to ignore making PC versions anymore.

optimising is a *****, and a lot of devs think that PC gamers will just pirate the games and that theyre low sales are due to piracy *cough* Ubisoft *cough*, or that they assume PC is too small a market to bother with, or both!

a bit off topic; but recently there was a pc gamer article about the fact that Xbox and PS4 both use AMD graphics, and therefore could lead to bad nvidia optimisation in the future. thoughts?
    
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yeah they pretty much are mid-range PCs nowadays. and im pretty sure they do have keyboard support, dont know bout mouse though lol
optimising is a *****, and a lot of devs think that PC gamers will just pirate the games and that theyre low sales are due to piracy *cough* Ubisoft *cough*, or that they assume PC is too small a market to bother with, or both!

a bit off topic; but recently there was a pc gamer article about the fact that Xbox and PS4 both use AMD graphics, and therefore could lead to bad nvidia optimisation in the future. thoughts?

in my deepest self. i believe pirating has helped the growth of the industry. not that i encourage it. i actually haven't downloaded a game since i was 18. 12 years ago and could afford buying them. but i do believe pirating helped the industry a lot. and actually many mods and ideas in consoles came from them being hacked/jailbroken or modded what ever you name it.
I've owned about all top consoles since the Genesis and beyond. and i've to say that sometimes i was devastated to spend money on a game that was awful.

Back to the topic. if developers don't want to develop for us PC gamers anymore. it's their loss. there are what 100 million consoles sold? but there are 1 billion PC:D
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The thing is, how much extra work would it really be for them to develop a PC version of a PS4/Xbox720 game? I would think that only minor things would need to be changed, instead of a full blown port of the game to a different architecture.
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personally, they do nothing to console me.
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personally, they do nothing to console me.

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They are just evolving ,they will still be consoles as long as they have the classic overpriced games and gamepad control
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The thing is, how much extra work would it really be for them to develop a PC version of a PS4/Xbox720 game? I would think that only minor things would need to be changed, instead of a full blown port of the game to a different architecture.

Proper optimization and porting can be real difficult, and would add at least an extra few months and $$ to the developement. Some devs dont think the return profit is worth the time and money.

its a shame.
    
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in my deepest self. i believe pirating has helped the growth of the industry. not that i encourage it. i actually haven't downloaded a game since i was 18. 12 years ago and could afford buying them. but i do believe pirating helped the industry a lot. and actually many mods and ideas in consoles came from them being hacked/jailbroken or modded what ever you name it.
I've owned about all top consoles since the Genesis and beyond. and i've to say that sometimes i was devastated to spend money on a game that was awful.

Back to the topic. if developers don't want to develop for us PC gamers anymore. it's their loss. there are what 100 million consoles sold? but there are 1 billion PC:D
it's their loss biggrin.gif

I agree. I have paid for games that I regretted paying for afterwards. So when a new game comes out I usually pirate it then If I like it I will pay for it on steam or a disc if there are extras like posters. I usually buy most the games I download. If a game is good and a sequel comes I'll usually buy it straight away.

another thing I do Is if I have a single player game that I bought I will still crack it so I don't need the disc to play.

EDIT: I am not endorsing this either and I feel I may be breaking the ToS of OCN so shall speak of this no more. ph34r-smiley.gif
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