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So I am debating flashing Paranoid Android 3 on my Nexus 4. I would like to hear some pros and cons. So far I have

Pros:
-Something new and entertaining
-I like the phablet UI and Pie and color change abilities

Cons:
-Less stable than stock (possibly)
-I had less than stellar results with flashing custom roms on my last Android phone (Galaxy S2 Skyrocket) i.e. poor battery life, and once an update that seemed to completely break all google services (very bad!).
-Wiping the phone even with backups on carbon, tasker, nova and other apps I'll still have a lot of setup to do again.


I am not unhappy with stock but I though something new might be interesting
Edited by cavallino - 3/22/13 at 9:54am
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On my nexus 4 I've been sticking with CyanogenMod 10.1

I stuck with it because between Stock, CM, and PA, CM gave me the features that I used most. As far as the stability point you brought up, you don't have to worry about that with the Nexus 4. This is because since its a Nexus device, most roms are built off of an AOSP base unlike other phones such as the GS2 which require a lot of hackery and "ghetto" fixes in the code. I know this from experience on the Galaxy Nexus I owned for a little bit and my current Nexus 4.

But back to the Rom, I did play with Paranoid Android for a few days on my nexus 4. I basically did it for the ability to use PIE controls and the ability to switch to the tablet interface. In the end, I was so used to the normal soft keys that using PIE became a hassle for me and I would always hit the wrong key if I swiped to quickly. But I felt like I could have gotten over that with more use. The biggest thing I liked about PA was the tablet interface and the ability to switch DPI settings. It was great having the soft-keys and notification center on the bottom. That and the ability to have PER app color was a nice touch also. Oh and the gamma change that was implemented was nice too.

However, in the end, some of the small features in the Trebuchet launcher in CM 10.1 brought me back to it. If I were you I would just make a nandroid backup and just test out the different ROMs and see which suits you best. I would give each of them about a week or so before switching to another and in the end see which one you were most comfortable with.
Edited by dreadlord369 - 3/22/13 at 10:05am
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I used CM10 on my last phone. I liked it and it worked well (but had aforementioned stability issues). I am sure it will be better on a Nexus 4 but I notice its a nightly still vs PA which seems like its a finished release? Maybe I am misunderstanding that.

With my Skyrocket the stock ICS ROM was a buggy disaster and the CM10 would be just what I would consider a bit unstable.


Part of me also feels like just waiting to see what KLP is like since its only a few months away.

I have a Nexus 4,7 and 10 so it might also be nice to use the same ROM on all of them if I go that direction and it doesn't seem like PA would be as beneficial on a tablet where as CM10 might be more so.

I may try testing roms on my Nexus 7 since I don't use it as much, has less important data and I've done less fiddling with settings etc.so I could afford more downtime with it if need be.
Edited by cavallino - 3/22/13 at 10:17am
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I too am contemplating flashing my Nexus 4. Good info.
    
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I used CM10 on my last phone. I liked it and it worked well (but had aforementioned stability issues). I am sure it will be better on a Nexus 4 but I notice its a nightly still vs PA which seems like its a finished release? Maybe I am misunderstanding that.

With my Skyrocket the stock ICS ROM was a buggy disaster and the CM10 would be just what I would consider a bit unstable.


Part of me also feels like just waiting to see what KLP is like since its only a few months away.

I have a Nexus 4,7 and 10 so it might also be nice to use the same ROM on all of them if I go that direction and it doesn't seem like PA would be as beneficial on a tablet where as CM10 might be more so.

I may try testing roms on my Nexus 7 since I don't use it as much, has less important data and I've done less fiddling with settings etc.so I could afford more downtime with it if need be.

It may seem that CM 10.1 is not in a polished state cause of the nightly builds but that is just how CM is built. Developers submit patches or features to gerrit where if it is approved it is added to the next nightly build. Because of this the developers can get instant feedback and the users get new features as soon as they are released. However as you mentioned, sometimes there are issues but they are patched in the next nightly. And if you want to completely avoid that hassle, you can flash monthly milestone builds which are considered stable. (There is a feature freeze a week before the milestone is built so no new issues are introduced.)

I don't exactly know how molesarecoming (PA creator) operates but I think he has a small testing period before a full release.
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I've been running PA on my Nexus for awhile now and don't plan on switching back. More screen real estate, works well with my current layout and I find PIE works so much better since I can just swipe from the side of my phone to bring them up.
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I've tried PA, CM10.1 and am currently on AOKP, all tried with a variety of kernels on my N4 and I haven't had a single stability issue. Battery life tends to either stay the same or increase on any decent rom (like PA) so I wouldn't worry about that.

As for your apps, you can back them and all their cached data up with the Nexus Root Toolkit by Wugfresh. I haven't tried myself, but that should help you keep your settings.
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Still can't decide haha.

I know I can go back to stock but its just such a hassle. I want to just be sure I definitely want it one way or the other.
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Well.....I attempted to flash PA to my Nexus 7. Played around with it didn't like it flashed back to stock and somewhere along the line the toolkit failed and wiped the boot loader. Thereby bricking my Nexus 7. Not good but I wasn't really using the N7 so if something had to screw up I'm glad that was it and not my N10 or N4. That said I will not be doing android rom flashing or rooting EVER again.
Edited by cavallino - 3/23/13 at 9:21pm
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Well.....I attempted to flash PA to my Nexus 7. Played around with it didn't like it flashed back to stock and somewhere along the line the toolkit failed and wiped the boot loader. Thereby bricking my Nexus 7. Not good but I wasn't really using the N7 so if something had to screw up I'm glad that was it and not my N10 or N4. That said I will not be doing android rom flashing or rooting EVER again.
more than likely it was a user mistake let me guees your one of those guys who messes something up and can't take responsibility and you knew the risks anyway so don't be complaining I've flashed 100+ ROMs on many devices and not once ever had a brick learn to read instructions

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