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I'm surprised Virgin hasen't started making their own O/S yet
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Originally Posted by SCollins View Post

having used linux, the problems are

OS useability and quality is crappy for the most part

Application quality, useability etc same situation.

what it would take to make linux viable, is a concerted design team with a singular focus to fix the applications and ui incosistencys etc.

good luck !

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Nobody will use the piece of crap Linux distros. Windows wins anyday

I agree with this. Linux has never really been "finished".

Contrary to popular opinion, I think Gnome 3 is the best desktop environment on free systems. Here's why: it is trying for consistency across apps and spending time doing things like making the font layout more consistent etc. That is what Linux desktop needs to be a real contender, free or not.

Example: open Firefox on a Linux desktop, now move the window to where you like it on your screen, now close and re-open Firefox. Guess what? it forgot where you positioned the window last time and opened it back at the top left again.

This is a major PITA for daily use when you have a 1440p screen.

One of many.

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Look at what "Android " has done . It is not impossible for "Ubuntu" to do the same .
It is not that Windows is all that great - It just has market share AND brand recognition - and for a majority of people it does the job well enough ( I even use it - from time to time )

Android is so ugly that most resellers "skin" it to make it look nicer. Other than that is just ok I guess. ( I've been using it on my phone for years BTW )
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um i mean the us and uk are creators of the modern free enterprise system, if you look at it from a historical perspective. granted pretty much every state that has free enterprise has corporatist elements. they do this for practical reasons, sometime state and corporate cooperation is the best solution to a problem, and it doesn't inherently make such countries democratic.

There is nothing democratic or good about corporatism, which can also be called fascism. You actually saying that the millions who died in the establishment and maintenance of fascism died for a good cause?

You also don't understand what I meant when I said the USA is a corporation. It is a corporation as enshrined in US law. Look up US CODE: Title 28,3002 and enjoy the truth.
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Told wife about this and asked if she would use it as a matter of national pride....... she cursed at me

Told wife it plans to build in a TaoBao app............. she now demands I tell her as soon as it is available rolleyes.gif
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There is nothing democratic or good about corporatism, which can also be called fascism. You actually saying that the millions who died in the establishment and maintenance of fascism died for a good cause?

i don't think you really understand what corporatism is. corporatism is only loosely tied to the political system of a country, it just means any sort of government/corporate interaction. pretty much every government, from liberal western democracies to russia and china engages in some degree of corporatism. heck engaging in any form of food subsidies is technically corporatism, but is necessary to guarantee the availability of reasonably priced food.

but hey who needs a basic level of rationality, or even an understanding of the terms being used , when you can engage in delusional conspiracy theories?
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  • Optimized Chinese Ubuntu? Don't think it is a bad thing, as long as they do help the growth of the OS instead of just trying to find something "cheap"-er.
  • In the authoritative country of China, ppl are aspired to be corrupted public employees. In the Corporatocratic US, ppl are aspired to be heads of corporations, enjoying the wealth but enjoying more to bend the rules, avoid taxes, exploit the loopholes etc. In the meanwhile, the % of ppl that live under poverty - for US standards - is increasing rapidly. Quite the opposite from what is happening in China, despite the fact that Chinese ppl are the modern slaves (with the alarm clock being snoozed daily, but who knows for how long it will keep on.
  • The scary part is that more than 7% of those abused people are using Mac OS. Not more scary than the fact that China is atm the biggest market for supercars, or that to find more Maybachs and RR than those you see in Beijing, you probably have to go to one of the Arab Emirates...difference is in China those are cruising past the millions of bicycles.
  • Ubuntu - as a word or idea - could be part of socialism's manifesto. If you fail to see why this is good, or if you equate socialism with Russian or Chinese (or Korean) communistic parties, throw in Fascism for the top etc, you simply don't know what you are talking about.
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  • Optimized Chinese Ubuntu? Don't think it is a bad thing, as long as they do help the growth of the OS instead of just trying to find something "cheap"-er.
  • In the authoritative country of China, ppl are aspired to be corrupted public employees. In the Corporatocratic US, ppl are aspired to be heads of corporations, enjoying the wealth but enjoying more to bend the rules, avoid taxes, exploit the loopholes etc. In the meanwhile, the % of ppl that live under poverty - for US standards - is increasing rapidly. Quite the opposite from what is happening in China, despite the fact that Chinese ppl are the modern slaves (with the alarm clock being snoozed daily, but who knows for how long it will keep on.
  • The scary part is that more than 7% of those abused people are using Mac OS. Not more scary than the fact that China is atm the biggest market for supercars, or that to find more Maybachs and RR than those you see in Beijing, you probably have to go to one of the Arab Emirates...difference is in China those are cruising past the millions of bicycles.
  • Ubuntu - as a word or idea - could be part of socialism's manifesto. If you fail to see why this is good, or if you equate socialism with Russian or Chinese (or Korean) communistic parties, throw in Fascism for the top etc, you simply don't know what you are talking about.

a coherent, informed post? +1
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Originally Posted by dtolios View Post

  • Ubuntu - as a word or idea - could be part of socialism's manifesto. If you fail to see why this is good, or if you equate socialism with Russian or Chinese (or Korean) communistic parties, throw in Fascism for the top etc, you simply don't know what you are talking about.

Wholeheartedly agree.
   
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Ready... FIGHT!

Who uses Windows in a serious business dependent environment anyway? It's a piece of crap.

I know you're joking, but Linux is only dominant in server environments. There are many business applications, like CAD, that you will have to use windows if you want any real software. The licence fee for windows becomes close to free when you're paying thousands for the software anyways.
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With a big company(or in this case, a dictatorship) pushing Linux, I think its marketshare will increase. Also consider Microsoft is having trouble getting people to NOT use certain services built into Windows in China, so a reduction in marketshare there may be a good thing for everyone.
If you still get virus's and any kind of -ware, then you don't deserve to use a computer.

I haven't had any kind of malicious code on my PC since the famed MSBlaster worm of 2003.

BS ALERT!!!! BS ALERT!!!!

Sorry but even the most careful person can still get bad software on their computers. Keep believing that Bull of yours.

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Not true. I'm sure there is a whole list of Windows software for which there is no Linux equivalent. I just haven't found it yet.

Wrong again. For every Windows program there is a better Linux equal. Look again.
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