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post #11 of 20
My first gaming computer experienced degradation quickly, but it was a small dip and leveled out quickly. Can't remember the exact voltage or clocks but when I first put her together I software updated everything and downloaded a few monitering programs to overclock with. Got a stable overclock after getting voltage as low as possible, ran overnight stability tests including memtest and everything was 100%. Then downloaded steam and bought a few games and downloaded them. I decided to go back into overclocking to see if I couldn't change some settings to get even better voltages. I didn't change any settings but the voltage which I remeber lowering very little, first stability test crashed, raised voltage back to where it was before, and it crashed again. Raised the voltage and it was 100%.

Not sure it will qualify as degradation or just flaws in my settings slowly taking affect on my overclock. I was half suspicious having more data on my SSD made it less stable, but I never did figure it out.
post #12 of 20
I was running my processor OC'd under custom water cooling for some time with the volts higher than they needed to be. I believe this led to some degradation within about 2 years simply because one day it refused to boot with the overclock. Even under water and keeping the temps around 50c, I'm sure there's still some CPU degradation involved, just not as much as if it were at 70c. Thus, it is much more important to test for stability in order to make sure that degradation isn't too much, or it could very well be from 6 years to 3 years or something like that.
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Originally Posted by Otterclock View Post

After 2 years my card has recently become more difficult to OC. Used to be I could get an easy 900/1325, but now I get bsods when I try 880/1275. I never really noticed a big difference in actual gaming anyway.

So you ran those clocks stable for two years then after two years it became unstable? Or were you frequently adjusting clocks?
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I have had my GTX 480 3 years now, i ran it on stock volts for around 5 months with a 100mhz OC on the core, and 4ghz memory, i firmly beleive in wearing in anything, everything needs to be worn in before you start throwing large voltages and OC's at it, as you do with speakers, and most other electrical goods.

After 3 years, my 480 can still clock higher than most on air, reaching 950 on air.

The trick is cooling... you can push voltage through your card no probs, but you need to keep the heat down.
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Thus the computer gawds were all like, let there be water in your systems.

Heh he biggrin.gif That's true. Now a days, not only water but also liquid nitrogen! specool.gif
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Good to hear. I wish someone would do a long term test and put up some numbers.

Yeah. Numbers will really help. Good you brought that up. How much juice does it really add to actual performance, gaming or whatever at the expense of reduced hardware life span rolleyes.gif

thinking.gif
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Yeah. Numbers will really help. Good you brought that up. How much juice does it really add to actual performance, gaming or whatever at the expense of reduced hardware life span rolleyes.gif

thinking.gif

Would depend on the person's upgrade plan. For those that upgrade yearly it doesn't have to last long so they could consider a highly OCed card of theirs lasting long for their situation where as others would consider it detrimentally short. My new rig will contain 7970s and my first loop but i want the cards to at least last 2-4 years somewhere in there. When i get them i honestly might keep record.
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Quote:
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Heh he biggrin.gif That's true. Now a days, not only water but also liquid nitrogen! specool.gif

First we had nast little alunimum blocks with a small crappy loud fan on it but that was awesome. Then we got heatpipes as a norm with copper bases in the alunimum...but it a rare thing people tried water cooling. Now we have watercooling all in ones that are quickly replacing huge copper heatsinks loaded with heatpipes and custom loops are becoming more popular.

I wonder where it's going to go from here. Is there going to be a permenant way to use LN and water kits will be the normal? What's after liquid nitrogen?
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Quote:
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First we had nast little alunimum blocks with a small crappy loud fan on it but that was awesome. Then we got heatpipes as a norm with copper bases in the alunimum...but it a rare thing people tried water cooling. Now we have watercooling all in ones that are quickly replacing huge copper heatsinks loaded with heatpipes and custom loops are becoming more popular.

I wonder where it's going to go from here. Is there going to be a permanent way to use LN and water kits will be the normal? What's after liquid nitrogen?

Yeah. Technology itself has a property of never stopping in an advancement, it just goes on & on & on & on. sonic.gif When I sit alone and think of the things I don't know yet , the list is like infinitely long. Really there are so many things to learn so many things read so many things to achieve & so many areas of technology still untouched. rolleyes.gif

You know liquid nitrogen boiling point is -196 deg.C. Liquid Helium goes further below i.e. -269 deg.C. So at ambient temperature which may range from -20 deg.C to 45 deg.C depending on your location, both of these are going to get evaporated so refilling becomes mandatory. doh.gif Though I think some genius might come up with an idea to use LN easily I hardly believe someone would try looking at below disadvantages of LN & LH. Basically he just need to figure out a way to condense evaporated LN & re-use it.

Disadvantages of using these LN & LH.
1. Although liquid nitrogen is non-flammable, it can condense oxygen directly from air. Mixtures of liquid oxygen and flammable materials can be dangerously explosive.
2. Liquid helium is more expensive and more difficult to store and use than liquid nitrogen.
3. Liquid nitrogen generally gives you sub 100 deg.C temperatures on CPU
4. Extremely low temperatures can cause integrated circuits to stop functioning.
5. CPU will usually expire within a relatively short period of time due to temperature stress caused by changes in internal temperature.

Having said that I think LN should be left for a bencher. Even though it might come in an easy usable form someday, it will cost you hefty money doh.gif heh he teaching.gif
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There was an article I think last year, scientists found that spider silk conduct heat better than copper.
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