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I wouldnt be comfortable with getting internet data coms via a satellite spotbeam transponder anyway.

They essentially take your data, load it into a shotgun (the satellite), then shoot it at NORTH AMERICA. Or regions thereof, I noted that this new satellite has many many spotbeams, which will also increase average throughput for customers by lowering the number users on any one given transponder and increase signal integrity.

In regards to the downlink, its like being on a WiFi hotspot, only the signal reaches hundreds of miles (and THOUSANDS of potential bad guys).

Now i'm imagining a space dude with a shotgun firing down at america shooting flash drives.
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The sats have to be in geo sync orbit so latency with this type of system will always be a problem. i cant say i like satellite net but for a lot of people its the only high-ish bandwidth option compared to 56k and it is good to at least see them upgrading instead of milking there old gear dry.

^ This.

Even the lowest theoretical orbit they could be in, and sustain orbit, would still produce latency far too high to be useful. IT will always be that way....

Frankly, it is cheaper for people who have this or dial up, to get a few dial-up accounts and bond them together for higher speeds. You can achieve speeds near what Hughes offers, but without the latency issue they have.
    
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^ This.

Even the lowest theoretical orbit they could be in, and sustain orbit, would still produce latency far too high to be useful. IT will always be that way....

Frankly, it is cheaper for people who have this or dial up, to get a few dial-up accounts and bond them together for higher speeds. You can achieve speeds near what Hughes offers, but without the latency issue they have.

Not quite. The most i ever had with a Dial-up connection is 10kb/s max.
Hughesnet's service is pretty bad though.
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Not quite. The most i ever had with a Dial-up connection is 10kb/s max.
Hughesnet's service is pretty bad though.

10kb/s? You either have to be on really old hardware or have severe quality issues with your lines to see those speeds anymore. There isn't any reason a person couldn't get at least ~28 per line, and if you bond three of them you are sitting at 84. Last time I ran into the setup it was a couple of 56 lines being bonded together, and the person was hitting that 56 pretty consistently.

Though, I suppose in today's world the bigger issue would be finding an ISP that supports bonding, I don't imagine many of them exist anymore.
    
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10kb/s? You either have to be on really old hardware or have severe quality issues with your lines to see those speeds anymore. There isn't any reason a person couldn't get at least ~28 per line, and if you bond three of them you are sitting at 84. Last time I ran into the setup it was a couple of 56 lines being bonded together, and the person was hitting that 56 pretty consistently.

Though, I suppose in today's world the bigger issue would be finding an ISP that supports bonding, I don't imagine many of them exist anymore.

Strange, Every dial-up setup i have ever been on has been around/below 10kb/s. (Not just me but other area's)

I have not had dial-up for about 3 years now though.
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I think he is refering to ISDN or Dual ISDN as in order to get 10 kilobytes per second you'd need about a 90-100kilobit connection and i've never heard of dialup faster then 56kbit that wasn't ISDN
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EchoStar Corporation... sounds like something out of a space horror film.
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Alot of you guys are talking about the old Satellite systems. Both Hughes and Wildblue/Exede have much faster systems today.
I have Exede myself and pay for 12mbit but run on ave 20mbit.

My only real issue are the painfully low bandwidth caps (10gb/month for $59.99) but atleast Exede offers the LNFZ (Late Night Free Zone) Unmetered 12am - 5am 7 days a week for heavy downloads. Latency is and I suspect always going to be an issue with Satellite but atleast it can handle Mario Kart lol

If these Bandwidth caps aren't adjusted to within reason soon though I and many others stuck with satellite will have to stick to classic gaming when the next Generation of always online gaming starts. Well that might happen for me regardless rolleyes.gif

I really don't see Satellite ever moving away from the low caps though frown.gif
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I think he is refering to ISDN or Dual ISDN as in order to get 10 kilobytes per second you'd need about a 90-100kilobit connection and i've never heard of dialup faster then 56kbit that wasn't ISDN

Yes, I am speaking bits, not bytes.
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Alot of you guys are talking about the old Satellite systems. Both Hughes and Wildblue/Exede have much faster systems today.
I have Exede myself and pay for 12mbit but run on ave 20mbit.

My only real issue are the painfully low bandwidth caps (10gb/month for $59.99) but atleast Exede offers the LNFZ (Late Night Free Zone) Unmetered 12am - 5am 7 days a week for heavy downloads. Latency is and I suspect always going to be an issue with Satellite but atleast it can handle Mario Kart lol

If these Bandwidth caps aren't adjusted to within reason soon though I and many others stuck with satellite will have to stick to classic gaming when the next Generation of always online gaming starts. Well that might happen for me regardless rolleyes.gif

I really don't see Satellite ever moving away from the low caps though frown.gif

Latency will always be an issue, unless they figure out how to go faster than the speed of light. The other option is Low Earth Orbit Sats, but they lack bandwidth.....
    
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We contract through Dish. We now install 3 different Satelite internet systems depending on where you live. All 3 are much improved over the last coupe of year, cheaper, faster and with caps up to 30GB's. Even still a Broadband cable connection is far superior but for those who have no choice it's not a bad option as long as you don't game online. If it's that important to you I would move where there is one but that's just me. I work for them but still use Charter because it's faster and has no limits/caps on useage. I hate Charter, you want to talk about poor service, but use them anyhow. I think we will see vast improvement in satelite internet in the future but for some it won't come fast enough.
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