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[X-Bit] Intel Changes Plans: Set to Continue with Upgradeable LGA Platforms Even with Skylake Chips

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"According to unidentified sources from Taiwan-based mainboard manufacturers cited by DigiTimes web-site, Intel will retain LGA packaging for 95% of desktop central processing units until, at least, the first half of 2015, when the company rolls-out chips powered by code-named Skylake micro-architecture.

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Wait a minute.....i thought Intel already debunked the whole non upgradable fiasco thing a while ago? thinking.gif
    
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Uh what? Intel wants to start making CPU and motherboard as one entity? What happens to ASUS and MSI and all those guys? Weirdest news I've heard in a while.
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Wait a minute.....i thought Intel already debunked the whole non upgradable fiasco thing a while ago? thinking.gif

they debunked it, then rebunked it, and it looks like they're changing up again.

personally, i almost wish they WOULD go with soldering cpu's right onto boards, so enthusiasts would go more towards AMD
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Intel knows that if they go BGA in the future, they will lose a lot of customers and all those customers will go to amd.
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Intel knows that if they go BGA in the future, they will lose a lot of customers and all those customers will go to amd.

Not if AMD capitulates on the mid-range segment like they already have done for the high end.

Another likely possibility in that time frame would be AMD going out of business via Chapter 7 bankruptcy liquidation.
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Intel knows that if they go BGA in the future, they will lose a lot of customers and all those customers will go to amd.

Intel can go BGA and ill still buy it
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Wait a minute.....i thought Intel already debunked the whole non upgradable fiasco thing a while ago? thinking.gif

Nope, they just said that some chips would still be LGA. It sounds to me like they are getting some push back from the motherboard manufacturers.
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Intel can go BGA and ill still buy it

So it wouldn't bother you not being able to change out your motherboard or cpu independently of each other?
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Considering intel said directly that they are stepping down from making their own motherboards, I would have to suggest that any BGA boards would not be intel made anyway. Intel would basically provide the chips directly to say Gigabyte and Asus who would then place the chip on the board, package it up, and stick in on the shelves. Would be no different from how you see graphics cards done today.

NVidia sends out their reference specs and the card makers are free to do what they want, within certain limitations.

The problem with full BGA, as was suggested by the article, is that you would then have to carry a huge range of chip choices for one specifc board... So instead of selling one board that has X-Y-Z features, they have to sell 10 boards that are all exactly the same, with exception of which intel chip they put on there. This would seem to be a very, very bad move for the manufactures, and the consumer would end up paying the price by having far less choice in the end.

BGA is great for tablets, laptops, and cell phones (does intel even make cellphone chips?) since the manufacturer would know which processor they want to stick in the device before hand. They would make one phone with these specific features, and then market it to the consumer. These devices are less about hardware and more about features right now. Although I would love to see an upgradeable and custom built cellphone or tablet. This would be the only way that I can see tablets finally pushing out the desktop market if they can one: Be just as powerful as a PC (we are getting closer each year) and two: Be customizable in every aspect for the enthusist.
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Well as one that is on both sides have a FX-8120/HD6950 FX-8350/7950 and a i5 3570K/GTX670 rigs both of my AMD rigs can keep up with the i5 in any game or app I have tried.

After reading so many post about how bad the FX CPU's are I thought for my 2013 rig I would go intel plus there was not really any way to go up in the CPU area with AMD anyway I was shocked to find that even the FX-8120 rig can perform just as good as the i5 rig in everything. Outside of synthetic benchmarks that do not really mean a whole lot in the real world the FX CPU's are every bit on par with at least the i5 3570K since that is the only intel CPU I have used for many many years.
 
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