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Originally Posted by Mygaffer View Post

Nope, they just said that some chips would still be LGA. It sounds to me like they are getting some push back from the motherboard manufacturers.
So it wouldn't bother you not being able to change out your motherboard or cpu independently of each other?



Of course not. The majority of us buy one board and one chip and are done for years. We don't pull the chip out of the socket so we could admire it.
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The problem I see with this is that you'll have good cpus, but crappy motherboards that can't overclock worth crap. Bad bios', VRMs ect.

Same with video cards. Many people like the chips, but the reference board is horrendous. So people wait for the Classified or Lightning versions.
    
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post #13 of 64
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So it wouldn't bother you not being able to change out your motherboard or cpu independently of each other?

Depends on how its implemented. If Intel just sells direct to Asus and the like, and they mount the cpu's, and we still have choice on the mobo end? Yeah I'm largely ok with that.

Hear me out:

1. With intels current chipset progression you practically have to buy a new chip AND mobo every upgrade cycle anyway.

2.the price of the new cpu's and the motherboards as they enter market are te same as the previous generation.

So the whole buy a good mobo and a cheap cpu, then upgrade the cpu later to the top end of that socket? Not really cost effective anymore.

This would damp down on choices a bit, BUT, if they drop all the cpu variants (K S U i3 i5 i7 etc) and narrow it down to like 4 choices? that'd actually be interesting.
    
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Just shows intel is all about power consumption and not performance thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
post #15 of 64
Soldering the cpu's on motherboards would give Intel( and the MB manufacturers) way too much control over the market, IMO.

I can see it now: want a i7, sure, we'll only solder them on motherboards 200$+, oh you want a low end pentium for a home file server, sure we'll solder them on Hx1 boards with only 2 sata ports.

/semi-joke
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Well as one that is on both sides have a FX-8120/HD6950 FX-8350/7950 and a i5 3570K/GTX670 rigs both of my AMD rigs can keep up with the i5 in any game or app I have tried.

After reading so many post about how bad the FX CPU's are I thought for my 2013 rig I would go intel plus there was not really any way to go up in the CPU area with AMD anyway I was shocked to find that even the FX-8120 rig can perform just as good as the i5 rig in everything. Outside of synthetic benchmarks that do not really mean a whole lot in the real world the FX CPU's are every bit on par with at least the i5 3570K since that is the only intel CPU I have used for many many years.

If that's the case for what you run, great, but there are things that Intel's much stronger CPU shows itself. Here's an 8150 trading blows with.. an e8400, and around half the performance of i7s. http://www.mameui.info/Bench.htm
post #17 of 64
At least we won't have to attempt delidding Skylake chips working our way around motherboard components.
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The problem with full BGA, as was suggested by the article, is that you would then have to carry a huge range of chip choices for one specifc board... So instead of selling one board that has X-Y-Z features, they have to sell 10 boards that are all exactly the same, with exception of which intel chip they put on there. This would seem to be a very, very bad move for the manufactures, and the consumer would end up paying the price by having far less choice in the end.
Most boards are usually used with only a small variety of chips. This wouldn't be a big problem.
post #18 of 64
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So it wouldn't bother you not being able to change out your motherboard or cpu independently of each other?

Nope, the only time I have them separatelity is when I buy them. I dont change the motherboard, neither the chip, always both at the same time.
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post #19 of 64
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Uh what? Intel wants to start making CPU and motherboard as one entity? What happens to ASUS and MSI and all those guys? Weirdest news I've heard in a while.

Did you read any of this ? They just said they won't be going with CPU and Mobo soldered together.
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post #20 of 64
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Overclock.net, ladies and gentlemen.

Took the thought right out of my mind.

If Intel did go so strong with soldered on chips that surely would put MSI and all the other brands at a problem? I mean they could do it too, but it'd limit them quite largely.
    
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