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Not if AMD capitulates on the mid-range segment like they already have done for the high end.

Another likely possibility in that time frame would be AMD going out of business via Chapter 7 bankruptcy liquidation.
more likely is that they claim chapter 11 and liquidate their stock to be sold off to a new parent company.
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more likely is that they claim chapter 11 and liquidate their stock to be sold off to a new parent company.

Can't though; if that was the case, Intel would essentially be a monopoly, which isn't going to happen. AMD will survive; with the work they've been doing recently on drivers and optimizations, it's irrelevant to talk about AMD going out of business.

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more likely is that they claim chapter 11 and liquidate their stock to be sold off to a new parent company.

There's a question whether that would work. The loss of non transferable Intel licensing. Issue has come up when there was talk of Nvidia buying Cyrix or AMD. Believe it also came up and lawsuit when AMD split off their fab.
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personally, i almost wish they WOULD go with soldering cpu's right onto boards, so enthusiasts would go more towards AMD

No, no, no, absolutely no. I'm not switching over to an inferior product. I'm sorry, but AMD is in better competition with Nvidia in the GPU market. In the CPU market, they are getting absolutely clobbered by Intel. Enthusiasts DO NOT want this to happen.
   
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Can't though; if that was the case, Intel would essentially be a monopoly, which isn't going to happen. AMD will survive; with the work they've been doing recently on drivers and optimizations, it's irrelevant to talk about AMD going out of business.
There is a law against non fair competition but if theres no competitor then what? Its not like theres some competitive fund just sitting in a bank account.
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Can't though; if that was the case, Intel would essentially be a monopoly, which isn't going to happen. AMD will survive; with the work they've been doing recently on drivers and optimizations, it's irrelevant to talk about AMD going out of business.

Driver optimisations mean nothing when you're not selling enough volume to turn a profit.

AMD are in big financial trouble at the moment and honestly, the chances of them surviving if they don't come out with something revolutionary within the next few years is pretty darn slim. I mean Intel are just sitting there toying with AMD atm. Intel haven't bothered pushing CPU performance with IB and the upcoming Haswell, almost all their efforts have been focused on beefing up their iGPU and they have made some pretty massive gains in the last 2 years in iGPU performance (relative to where it was) whilst AMD hasn't really caught up anything in the CPU department.

Now AMD are trying to branch into the memory and SSD market and only a few weeks ago sold off their Austin HQ for $164m to come up with some quick capital (perhaps to invest into their NAND products?). Either way, that's not a move that a company in a good financial position would make. That is the move of a company struggling to find a way out of a deep hole and are pretty much just hoping they might be able to scrape by for a few more years in the hope they come up with something good.

To give you a comparison, Nvidia are building a brand new HQ because they have out-grown their current one, their financial position is incredibly strong at the moment with record profits and sales, they are expanding into new markets with each and every year. That's something a successful company does, a company that sells its HQ to come up with capital........well they're not doing so well.

And just so that everyone is clear; if AMD were to go bust because of poor management and finances, that does not equate to anti-competition just because Intel would be the only desktop CPU manufacturer. Its only anti-trust if it could be proven that Intel had under dealings that lead to the downfall of AMD (yes I know there have been cases in the past). However most of AMD's issues are from underwhelming products and the fact they change CEO's as frequently as the season's change. Not to mention that Intel would likely keep AMD afloat anyway in exchange for some patents or AMD licenses
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If anyone ever end up buying AMD, it will be Samsung. Nvidia can't because of the GPU's, it just can't happen. If they could work out a way to get the licence from intel, Samsung could turn that company around. Heck, even Apple could do it and start using all their own hardware (chip wise) in their products. If Apple did do that, I've never buy anything AMD again but it could happen.
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No, no, no, absolutely no. I'm not switching over to an inferior product. I'm sorry, but AMD is in better competition with Nvidia in the GPU market. In the CPU market, they are getting absolutely clobbered by Intel. Enthusiasts DO NOT want this to happen.
You are seriously confusing the word enthusiast with optimist.

You don't need a Veyron to be a car enthusiast. You're also being a drama queen about the performance differences, but that's you're own opinion I guess.
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If anyone ever end up buying AMD, it will be Samsung. Nvidia can't because of the GPU's, it just can't happen. If they could work out a way to get the licence from intel, Samsung could turn that company around. Heck, even Apple could do it and start using all their own hardware (chip wise) in their products. If Apple did do that, I've never buy anything AMD again but it could happen.

AMD. Apple Approved. Apple Evolved.
 
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AMD will be bought by Asus, cant wait for that to happen so we can have the mobo cpu gpu all made by the same company and will go head to head with intel's cpu/mobo.
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