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post #71 of 93
I'd like to see a mercury loop regardless of better or worse if u could make the tubes clear n add some bubbles it look sick everything doesn't have to be about proformance look at the fish tank builds

A leak with mercury tho would not only kill the hardware but may kill you buying mercury is also quite difficult nowdays
post #72 of 93
I'm looking for some type of red koolant an d blue tubing that looks good under a green cathode to complete anakins conversion...
post #73 of 93
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Originally Posted by Cidd View Post

EK coolant is also on the base side of pH, it is good for loops with more than one metal, as it don't promote galvanic corrosion.
Also, so far it has done nothing to the tubing (no clouding) or my special something i keep in res...



I would never take distilled without corrosion inhibitor in to a loop if it has dissimilar metals...ever. Paying 8 bucks for proper coolant or running the risk of having radiator corroded?

DO NOT USE EK COOLANT. I used it before myself and it clouded the hell out of all my tubes and gunked up my blocks, I think I still have photos somewhere. Also LOL at the idea of using mercury in a loop, it's very very silly to do so. You get no benefits, and a buttload of issues. If you want something that looks cool AND you loop isn't very complex (1 or 2 blocks TOPS, no 90 degree fittings) AND you're willing to flush it out every year minimum you could go for Mayhem's Aurora range of products, though they aren't meant for 24/7 use.
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post #74 of 93
I'm going to try primo chill.
post #75 of 93
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DO NOT USE EK COOLANT. I used it before myself and it clouded the hell out of all my tubes and gunked up my blocks, I think I still have photos somewhere.

Gunk is from tubing, if you want to be more precise, mainly plastisizer with some polymer strands.


Strands = polymer
Balls = plastisizer

Tubing that can't take glycols or others weak non polar solvents (or even strong polar solvents like H2O) will leak the plastisizer and some of the polymer strands in to the water, that will begin to collect in places with flow restriction.

Tube clouding is a sure sign that the walls of tube is deteriorating. So far, my Masterkeeler batch of UV blue tubing have shown no sign of this while the EK coolant have been looping for 4+ months.


LETS PUT THIS MYTH AT REST


Distilled water wont make your tubing immune from clouding or parts from corroding. Distilled water is actually quite nasty.

If anyone of you took any advanced chemistry, ever, you should know that distilled water is NOT inert. Auto ionization happens all the time, and because it is virtually devoid of any ions or anions, it will create an environment where surrounding materials will try to get in equilibrium. Best way to combat this is to saturate water (anti corrosion agents, strong conjugate base etc.) to the point where water and surroundings are in equilibrium and non reactive (not a solvent, no high enthalpy differences) so that the water is "tamed" and tubes and blocks protected.
Edited by Cidd - 4/4/13 at 4:05am
post #76 of 93
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Gunk is from tubing, if you want to be more precise, mainly plastisizer with some polymer strands.


Strands = polymer
Balls = plastisizer

Tubing that can't take glycols or others weak non polar solvents (or even strong polar solvents like H2O) will leak the plastisizer and some of the polymer strands in to the water, that will begin to collect in places with flow restriction.

Tube clouding is a sure sign that the walls of tube is deteriorating. So far, my Masterkeeler batch of UV blue tubing have shown no sign of this while the EK coolant have been looping for 4+ months.


LETS PUT THIS MYTH AT REST


Distilled water wont make your tubing immune from clouding or parts from corroding. Distilled water is actually quite nasty.

If anyone of you took any advanced chemistry, ever, you should know that distilled water is NOT inert. Auto ionization happens all the time, and because it is virtually devoid of any ions or anions, it will create an environment where surrounding materials will try to get in equilibrium. Best way to combat this is to saturate water (anti corrosion agents, strong conjugate base etc.) to the point where water and surroundings are in equilibrium and non reactive (not a solvent, no high enthalpy differences) so that the water is "tamed" and tubes and blocks protected.

I'm not saying that distilled water won't, so I don't know why you bring that up lol. What I am saying is I used the same tubing with both EK UV Blue and with mayhem's pastel mint green. Using masterkleer tubing, the ek coolant quickly clouded the tubes, and left large deposits of gunk in my cpu block and gpu blocks. Then I switched to mayhem's and some new masterkleer tubing and nothing whatsoever. I am no chemist nor do I know the little details, but in the switch I also switched out blocks and radiators (so basically it was a new loop with no previous residue), and to me that indicates that the EK coolant was problematic, not to mention the various others that have complained about this. All I'm saying is be wary, there is a reason why almost no one uses coolant outside of mayhem's if they've done research.
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post #77 of 93
Any expert opinions on the new Swiftech coolant:
http://www.swiftech.com/Hydrx-PM2coolant.aspx
Vs. distilled water and a silver kill coil?
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Any expert opinions on the new Swiftech coolant:
http://www.swiftech.com/Hydrx-PM2coolant.aspx
Vs. distilled water and a silver kill coil?

Haven't seen any yet myself personally.
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post #79 of 93
Well, i did take steps to prevent anything to effect my loop, mild nitric acid bath at 60C to rads. Tested all parts (the doll) for 2 weeks in coolant and then applying mechanical friction and stress.


All i can say is that major problem that i see is bad batch at tubing. Even small miscalculation in ratio of plastisizer can **** up your system. The doll lacks soft parts, so it is unlikely to cause problems. The tubing is where the problems may occur, but usually bad batch of tubing will get obvious fast, so keeping piece of tubing in coolant for week at above 30C temperature will reveal if it is going to be an issue.

To be frank, ill rather take plastisizer problems than have my rad's solder eaten trough and have a leak. Acetone gets rid of the gunk when you heat it a bit pretty fast.

But, so far so good for me. Personally, i find the current EK clear coolant OK.
post #80 of 93
What do you guys think of the Primochill Pure And Primochill Ice?
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