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http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/GTX680DC22GD5V2/
There's a 4GB version too.
I made a mistake tought it was a 680 it was a 660 my bad

My eyes hurt like hell today

http://honda-tech.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=205871&d=1303921199
Edited by shilka - 3/24/13 at 7:29am
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Welcome to OCN mate thumb.gif
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So far I've got the Cooler master case and the EVO 212 fan. Now I face a new dilemma: I can get a used 2600k for the same price as a new 3570k.. should I? I do a little bit of rendering from time to time and the double threads on the cores would help here. It is also possible that in the coming years more games (like GTA5) will use this technology more. I will probably keep the CPU I buy for 3-4 years so I think 2600k makes a lot sense. However, will my Corsair 520W PSU manage the load of a OC 2600k?
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So far I've got the Cooler master case and the EVO 212 fan. Now I face a new dilemma: I can get a used 2600k for the same price as a new 3570k.. should I? I do a little bit of rendering from time to time and the double threads on the cores would help here. It is also possible that in the coming years more games (like GTA5) will use this technology more. I will probably keep the CPU I buy for 3-4 years so I think 2600k makes a lot sense. However, will my Corsair 520W PSU manage the load of a OC 2600k?

 

Yep. It's much more than enough.

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So far I've got the Cooler master case and the EVO 212 fan. Now I face a new dilemma: I can get a used 2600k for the same price as a new 3570k.. should I? I do a little bit of rendering from time to time and the double threads on the cores would help here. It is also possible that in the coming years more games (like GTA5) will use this technology more. I will probably keep the CPU I buy for 3-4 years so I think 2600k makes a lot sense. However, will my Corsair 520W PSU manage the load of a OC 2600k?

Power wise. it's enough.. I'm not sure about the 2600K though.. the 3570 will be game capable for some time "around 3 years" until the skylake comes out. and the 2600K is good for rendering because of the HT.

Also the 2600K will run a little bit hotter than the 3570 due to many factors and you are getting the evo which is find but with different fans as the stock fans are not pressure optimized. In my opinion grab the 3570K as long as the rendering isn't that heavy. and save up your money to get the best gpu at the time of release of the games you like.

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Thanks for the welcome everyone biggrin.gif

I took the 2600k after all, gambling that upcoming games (in the next 3 years) will make more use of the hyperthreading. So you say my old PSU will really handle it? Even if I get a new GPU and OC that as well? What if I decide to add a Bluray drive and a SSD to the mix? I already have 2 internal drives + one external one. I'm not sure how to calculate the power of the system, can someone help me with that? Do I sum up the max peak power of the CPU, GPU, all disks and drives, the motherboard itself, all fans (?), and compare it to the 520W of my PSU, or is the calculation more complicated?

As for the hotter CPU, if I see the temps are too high, I'll replace the default 212 fan, and maybe add more fans to the awesome case I got - after all it's designed for "Hyper Air Flow". Just to make sure - at what OC will the temps become a problem for the stock 212 EVO? I don't think I'll try to go above 4.5Ghz, might settle for average 4.3 or so, will that cause a lot heat?

And is the default cooler master thermal paste delivered with 212EVO sufficient for medium OC? Or should I get a MX-4 paste, or don't bother?
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Thanks for the welcome everyone biggrin.gif

I took the 2600k after all, gambling that upcoming games (in the next 3 years) will make more use of the hyperthreading.

 

Nice. You'll love it!

 

 

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So you say my old PSU will really handle it?

 

It may be old, but it's still a good PSU:

 

http://www.overclock.net/t/928113/a-message-to-the-community-on-enthusiast-power-supplies

 

 

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Even if I get a new GPU and OC that as well?

 

Which video card?

 

What kind of overclocking are you talking about?

 

 

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 What if I decide to add a Bluray drive and a SSD to the mix?

 

Those only add a tiny amount of power. It's so small that it's not enough to take into consideration.

 

 

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I already have 2 internal drives + one external one. I'm not sure how to calculate the power of the system, can someone help me with that? Do I sum up the max peak power of the CPU, GPU, all disks and drives, the motherboard itself, all fans (?), and compare it to the 520W of my PSU, or is the calculation more complicated?

 

I would just simplify it and say that there's nothing to worry about. The parts to worry about are the CPU and the video card, especially in a common system like yours.

 

 

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As for the hotter CPU, if I see the temps are too high, I'll replace the default 212 fan, and maybe add more fans to the awesome case I got - after all it's designed for "Hyper Air Flow". Just to make sure - at what OC will the temps become a problem for the stock 212 EVO? I don't think I'll try to go above 4.5Ghz, might settle for average 4.3 or so, will that cause a lot heat?

 

You should be able to get 4.5 GHz very easily. ;) I personally recommend shooting for 4.7 to 4.8 GHz.

 

 

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And is the default cooler master thermal paste delivered with 212EVO sufficient for medium OC? Or should I get a MX-4 paste, or don't bother?

 

It should be more than good enough. I'm using the stock thermal compound that came with my Thermaltake Frio and it's working well.

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About the video card, I'm not decided if I'll buy one now, or wait for something stronger, because I really want it to be able to handle a game like GTA 5 in ultra HD detail smile.gif If I were to buy now, I think it would be either

Asus GeForce GTX 660 DirectCU II OC 2GB
or
Gigabyte Radeon HD 7870 OC 2GB DDR5

Both are the same price, and similar in performance.. if I OC them, it will be just as much as I can go on stock cooling, so probably not much smile.gif I think I've read somewhere that one of these can reach something in order of 280W when OC, which made me worried, since if you add 230W from the CPU, it nearly reaches the 520 limit. But maybe I misunderstood something and the test was talking about total system power.
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Those vengeance sticks ... They're not as good as people claim. You can get Kingston Hyperx Genesis sticks and G.Skill ARES sticks for about the same price as you would pay for vengeance sticks and they are WAY, WAY better. While some vengeances can get at most 1750Mhz the ARES and hyperx genesis sticks can get 1866MHz without breaking a sweat and also you can tighten the timings on the Ares and Genesis sticks quite a lot.
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About the video card, I'm not decided if I'll buy one now, or wait for something stronger, because I really want it to be able to handle a game like GTA 5 in ultra HD detail smile.gif If I were to buy now, I think it would be either

Asus GeForce GTX 660 DirectCU II OC 2GB
or
Gigabyte Radeon HD 7870 OC 2GB DDR5

Both are the same price, and similar in performance.. if I OC them, it will be just as much as I can go on stock cooling, so probably not much smile.gif I think I've read somewhere that one of these can reach something in order of 280W when OC, which made me worried, since if you add 230W from the CPU, it nearly reaches the 520 limit. But maybe I misunderstood something and the test was talking about total system power.

 

Yep, 280W is the amount of power the power supply is pulling from the wall outlet. So if the PSU is 85% efficient while pulling 280W from the wall outlet, then the system is only pulling 238W from the PSU. The video card is really only pulling up to about 130W from the PSU. So even if you overclocked the 3570K to 5 GHz, it would still only pull up to 150W from the PSU which would make the total system power draw at the wall outlet become 430W which means that if the PSU is 85% efficient while pulling 430W, then the system is only pulling 365W from the PSU. So even if all this power were to be pulling from the +12v rail (but it's not), then you'd still have 115W left over in the most extreme conditions. Your normal gaming power draw would be closer to about 250-275W. So even overclocking the 7870 still wouldn't get close to the HX520's limits. Besides, the HX520 can continuously deliver 520W 24/7 if it's ever needed. ;)

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Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail 
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AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 
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Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
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