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I was originally going to get a 680 gtx but I rather not spend > 400 for a gen that came out last year. I just need a video card untill Maxwell/AMD's 2014 offering. So My choices were down to 670 vs 7950, and I think I am set on a 7950 now.

I also saw the 270 deal for the powercolor version of 7950, but that has a terrible ref designed cooler (single 80/90mm fan in center). For me, the extra $40 for the Dual X over ref is worth it. Now my question is:

Is the extra $30 for the Vapor X worth it? Last Radeon card I owned was a X700 so I'm completely out of the loop now when it comes to Radeon-only brands.


Edit: I would also like to stick to Newegg/superbiiz/amazon.

Edit 2: The specific Dual X card I'm talking about is the 3L model:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202026

Vapor X :http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202003
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go with the sapphire HD 7950 boost with dual x cooler. also the 3L is a custom PCB design and has no VRM temp sensors. its sapphire model number is 11196-19-20G. go with the 2L model which has a AMD reference PCB design . sapphire model no 11196-16-20G . superbiiz has the best price for that card. at USD 310 with shipping (290 after mail in rebate).

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AT-7950BST
Edited by raghu78 - 3/23/13 at 8:37pm
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go with the sapphire HD 7950 boost with dual x cooler. also the 3L is a custom PCB design and has no VRM temp sensors. its sapphire model number is 11196-19-20G. go with the 2L model which has a AMD reference PCB design . sapphire model no 11196-16-20G . superbiiz has the best price for that card. at USD 310 with shipping (290 after mail in rebate).

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AT-7950BST

The 2L isn't a reference board, it's designed by Sapphire. Take a look at the caps. That said, EK and Swiftech made waterblocks for those of us who have it.



A real 7950 reference is based off the 7970 reference board



the Vapor-X is one of the best coolers on the market that comes with the GPU, they're worth the extra money, the downside is if you ever want to watercool, you'll be using a universal GPU. I had the dual x and I got one hell of an overclock out of it.
Edited by SpykeZ - 3/23/13 at 8:42pm
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The 2L isn't a reference board, it's designed by Sapphire. Take a look at the caps.

the Vapor-X is one of the best coolers on the market that comes with the GPU, they're worth the extra money, the downside is if you ever want to watercool, you'll be using a universal GPU. I had the dual x and I got one hell of an overclock out of it.

the 2L is manufactured by sapphire but follows AMD reference PCB design and is compatible with full cover waterblocks. look at the newegg image gallery 3rd pic. use zoom. AMD name and logo above the PCI-E connector with PCB no 109-C38137-00

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202006

http://www.ekwb.com/news/131/19/

"We have completed internal testing of our newest EK-FC7950 water block, built specificaly for the AMD Radeon HD 7950 graphics cards based of AMD 109-C38137-00 PCB . Once again we have managed to manufacture the highest performance (both hydraulic and thermal wise) water cooling product."
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AMD doesn't take those pictures. They just grab them off the net. They don't even update revision numbers on motherboard so trusting them that it's the correct pcb serial is a gamble. I'd email Sapphire about it.

All in all, it's irrelevant since it didn't sound like he wanted to watercool
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Yeah, I wont be water cooling (I may in the future, but that would be with Maxwell/ AMD's GCN successor)
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go with the sapphire HD 7950 boost with dual x cooler. also the 3L is a custom PCB design and has no VRM temp sensors. its sapphire model number is 11196-19-20G. go with the 2L model which has a AMD reference PCB design . sapphire model no 11196-16-20G . superbiiz has the best price for that card. at USD 310 with shipping (290 after mail in rebate).

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=AT-7950BST

Unfortunately, superbiiz doesn't give the never settle reloaded coupon with that : /.
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Unfortunately, superbiiz doesn't give the never settle reloaded coupon with that : /.

check with superbiiz. i am quite sure the never settle reloaded promotion is still on. if not go with amazon or newegg.
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check with superbiiz. i am quite sure the never settle reloaded promotion is still on. if not go with amazon or newegg.

Superbiiz was on it, but they are out of coupons as of 3-21: (below link to news)

http://www.superbiiz.com/amd/neversettlereloaded/Crysis3/
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thanks guys, I've decided to go with the vapor x, the 3L dual x version not having a vrm temp sensor is a bit worrisome for OC'ing, which I plan to do. And the 2L dual X is only $10 cheaper than the vapor X.

After seeing some benchmarks, it seems that I only have to hit ~1100mhz on core to match 7970 / 680 gtx. (Correct me if I'm wrong.).
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