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Ok here goes.... Iam interested in running 3 monitors so far I have purchased a Asus 24 inch 1900x1080 monitor so before I go out and buy 2 more ive been reading there is tons of problems such as.... My monitor has the following hook-ups 1 dvi..... 1 hdmi 1 vga.... Ive read u need to have a display-port monitor is this true? If that's the case then I need to start over with 3 display port monitors! (dam)! Another thing I read is windows 7 cannot run 3 monitors for some reason without a VERY expensive adapter ( how much is this adapter and whats it called?) I plan or running 3 montors with either a radeon 6970 crossfire or tri fire setup- since I cant afford to buy 2 7970s that's the next best thing for me.I have windows 7 64 bit what else do I need to buy other then 2 more monitors??? Thank u for your time
     
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1. You don't need to use DisplayPort to use eyefinity.
2. You don't need an expensive adapter to use eyefinity with Windows.
All you need is 3 monitors and 2 6970s + the cables obviously. Which specific cards do you have?
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Andy I have 1 Msi 6970 with another 1 on the way in a few days... They have the 2 dvi connectors, 1 hmdi and 2 display ports so total of 5 hook-ups... If they do well I was thinking about dropping in a 3rd card even and maybe a 4th? But 1st id like to see how 2 cards run 3 monitors before I decide for sure,i know my electric bill isn't gonna be to happy lol but oh well
     
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Iam not to happy about the fact if I run 3 gpus or even 4 they will be sandwiched with possibly no air flow whatsoever! Which brings me to my next obstical at that point depending if its worth it or not I might water-cool them? Its just cool to have 3 or 4 video cards running at the same time,its sort of a personal achivment for me lol.If money wasn't an issue id jump on 2 7990s but that's not gonna happen for a while!
     
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Until very recently I had an eyefinity setup with 3x asus vh242 monitors which sound like yours are too (by the way its 1920x1080 resolution FYI!) along with crossfired hd 7970s so I've got some 1st hand experience of what you're wanting to achieve.

Right, so, good news first, you're going along the right path monitor wise, you can run 2x 1080p monitors like yours off the dvi and hdmi outputs of your card but for a 3rd, you do need a display port adapter but just a standard active adapter. These adapters come in 3x 'flavours' cheapest being passive (maybe £5 or less), then active (maybe £20-£30) which is all you will need and then active dual link display port adapters (£70+) which you'd only need if you wanted to run multiple 1440p and above monitors that didn't have an integral display port. Amd have a good eyefinity FAQ so google for that and it will tell you all you need to get set up.

For multi gpu crossfire, it depends on the design of the cards as to how badly they're affected by the close proximity to their neighbours. If they're reference design, they tend to exhaust out the rear bracket so these really are the best for stacking them side by side. However they sure are noisy so be prepared! There are undoubtedly non-reference designs which are better than others so you have to evaluate each really on their merits before deciding or water cool as you've already suggested.

Now for the bad.

Forget quad-fire, by all accounts this is nothing but a major headache. Personally I wouldn't even bother with crossfire again- you're better off saving the money for the next gen card than buying multiple current gen cards- a single card will always outperform multiple cards equalling the same total power. You have issues such as micro stuttering, excess heat, increased psu requirements, increased noise and less overall overclocking ability as you're always limited by the slowest card.

This brings me to eyefinity- the overhead on the cards is enormous. If you're happy to spend £1500-£2000 on a system and have it either drop to 20fps in parts of graphically intense games or run them at low quality settings then I guess eyefinity is for you. 3x cards or more should be able to handle it better but my 2x 7970s weren't able to deliver good enough frames for my taste at 5760x1080. It's a nice idea, shame about the execution.

I ditched it in favour of a single quality 1440p screen and am much happier with the overall result. Feel free to disagree though, I doubt anyone would have convinced me otherwise a year and a half ago when I setup my eyefinity rig!
 
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Damm now I was hoping not to hear that damm! So if u were getting bad fps with your cf 7970s I will encounter the same problem then! I dont know now iam kinda stumped what to do,id hate to spend all that time and money just to have to run it at poor picture quality,kinda defeats the whole purpose.yeah the monitors u had is exactly the same model I currntly have! So my other option would be to ditch this monitor for something lets just say like a 40 inch 1080p monitor single? Sorry I still donr understand how these new resolutions work 1440p? Ive seen them at stores but are they much better the 1920x1080s? As far as adapters go I thought I would need to purchase this triplehead sonething adapter and they cost about the same as a used gpu! If thats really all I need what u listed then it schouldnt be to bad....yeah I guess iam kinda stuck proving it to myself kinda like u but worse case senario ill just give it to my daughter and let her game on it if I dont like it.u have a solid point abour the gpus I agree only thing thats a positive for me is I can pick up a used 6970 for 150 dollars and be abke to max out almost every game, u xant find a new gen gpu for 150 and expect the same results....i ver(y much appricate your advice thanks! I guess we all have to get wet behind the ears before we learn,a thing or 2 lolI
     
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I had a sapphire HD 6970 with 3 asus 25.5" running at 5700x1200 res with no problems at all. 2 DVI and 1 mini DP to DVI active converter.

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Damm now I was hoping not to hear that damm! So if u were getting bad fps with your cf 7970s I will encounter the same problem then! I dont know now iam kinda stumped what to do,id hate to spend all that time and money just to have to run it at poor picture quality,kinda defeats the whole purpose.yeah the monitors u had is exactly the same model I currntly have! So my other option would be to ditch this monitor for something lets just say like a 40 inch 1080p monitor single? Sorry I still donr understand how these new resolutions work 1440p? Ive seen them at stores but are they much better the 1920x1080s? As far as adapters go I thought I would need to purchase this triplehead sonething adapter and they cost about the same as a used gpu! If thats really all I need what u listed then it schouldnt be to bad....yeah I guess iam kinda stuck proving it to myself kinda like u but worse case senario ill just give it to my daughter and let her game on it if I dont like it.u have a solid point abour the gpus I agree only thing thats a positive for me is I can pick up a used 6970 for 150 dollars and be abke to max out almost every game, u xant find a new gen gpu for 150 and expect the same results....i ver(y much appricate your advice thanks! I guess we all have to get wet behind the ears before we learn,a thing or 2 lolI

1080p is 1920x1080 resolution = ~2.07 million pixels
1440p is 2560x1440 resolution = ~ 3.68 million pixels (still at 16:9 ratio)

to display 24-bit colour (each R, G, B colour an 8-bit value) at 60Hz requires the following bandwidth:

1080p = 2.99 GBit/s (24-bits * 60Hz * 1920 * 1080 = 2985984000 bits/s)
1440p = 5.3 GBit/s (24-bits * 60Hz * 2560 * 1440 = 5308416000 bits/s)

single link DVI has a maximum video bandwidth of 3.96 GBit/s so can do 1080p but can't do 1440p, you need a dual-link DVI port (video bandwidth 7.62 GBit/s) or a display port interface (8.64 GBit/s) to achieve that. Cheaper active display port to dvi adapters are single link so can only run 1080p monitors/

As for a 40" 1080p monitor (TV I assume) while it would work... the DPI would be pretty low and TV's aren't designed to display a stable static image (given that by their definition a motion picture tends to be moving!) so tend to be quite grainy and noisy when viewed up close.

Your call really, you might love eyefinity and here's a list of the games I was able to run well in eyefinity..

Left 4 dead 1/2
Anno 2070
C&C Red alert 3
DiRT 2
Total War Shogun 2
Portal 2
Sins of a Solar Empire
H.A.W.X
Team Fortress 2
X3

Here's a list of the games I dropped back to single screen

Arma 2
Batman Arkham Asylum
Borderlands 1/2
Crysis 1/2
Dead Island
Dead Space 2
Farcry 3
Max Payne 3
XCOM (due to a silly bug which rendered the viewport upside down!)
Skyrim

hope the info helps, eyefinity can be good fun so if you're keen to try it I'm sure you'll enjoy it for a while but having run 3x smaller monitors and 1x larger, high resolution monitor, I much prefer the latter.
 
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corsair vengence BLUE  baracuda seagate 7200 rpm asus sata 24x drw thermaltake contac 30 cpu cooler 
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windows 7 home premium 64 bit LG 26 inch led 1900x1080 resolution logitech mk 260 coolermaster 750 watt gx bronze 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
coolermaster 430 elite logitech mk 260 logitech mk 260 sony reciver hooked up to asus optical port 
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