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I heard you can't get much of an oc on a i5 3470, so if you oc the 6300 it will beat a i5 3470 in most cases.

Yes and no. You can't really get any OC on an i5-3470. I mean, you might be able to get .4 ghz or something, but its generally not worth buying a board capable of doing that. And yes, the fx-6300 will "beat" the i5-3470 in many applications when overclocked, most of them multithreaded. But for gaming, the overclocked fx-6300 generally only "beats" the i5-3470 in games where processor is largely irrelevant - real world performance will be the same. And the i5-3470 still has an advantage in some games like the Total War series, where Ivy Bridge currently destroys all competitors (including sandy bridge!).

But that's not really the point. the fx-6300 is a fine chip, and if you go to the trouble of overclocking it, it's roughly the same performance tier as an i5-3470 and a great choice. The bigger deal is that if you DON'T overclock the fx-6300, it is notably inferior to the fx-6300.

The OP did not specify if he planned to overclock (and no, even here this cannot be taken for granted). If the answer to that is no, the i5-3470 is a clear winner.
    
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Ivy Bridge currently destroys all competitors (including sandy bridge!)

really? so, if you have an i5-2500k you really need to upgrade to i5-3570k.
can you please provide some links for me. I was under the strange impression that
even that Ivy Bridge has 20% more transistor than Sandy Bridge the performance was
about the same (2-3% max at the same core and MHz). Plus Ivy Bridge needs to be delidded
to compete with sandy bridge when talking about overclocking.

but sure buddy. "Ivy Bridge destorys all competitors". Not like SB-E eats IB and poops haswell.

back to the OP question on what cpu he should get. $200 i5-3470 that only can be overclocked via
expensive motherboard using BLK (a few MHz). or an easy to overclock FX-6300 (unlocked multi) that is $130.
the new FX-8320 just hit $150 shipped at Tiger Direct.

As others pointed out if you have a local Micro Center you can get an even better deal.

A10-5800K is a great APU but if you are going to run a dedicated graphic card it isn't a good option.
FX-6300 is faster than Phenom II x 4 965 (stock and overclocked). I would go with FX-6300 out of the three
options the OP gave. if you push the budget up another $20 the FX-8320 is worth it. intel i5-3570K
would be a much better option than a i5-3470 that was recommended. Intel CPUs cost a lot more in
the rest of the world than we are used to here in the states. i5-3470 is one of the worst recommendation
I have seen why not an itanium.

list of motherboard deals (will update later tonight).

AMD motherboard Sale Round-Up
http://www.overclock.net/t/1369005/amd-motherboard-sale-round-up
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And the i5-3470 still has an advantage in some games like the Total War series, where Ivy Bridge currently destroys all competitors (including sandy bridge!).

That statement applied only to the Total War series, which seems to have majorly benefited from one of the seemingly minor instruction set changes moving from sandy bridge to ivy bridge.
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can you please provide some links for me

Bit Tech's Shogun 2: Total War CPU benchmark

Yes, that is a stock i5-3570k narrowly out-performing a 5.0 ghz i5-2500k. Yes, Bit Tech said they checked several times to make sure the benchmark was right. Yes, I went to the large Total War fansites for confirmation - user experience backs up Bit Tech's numbers.

Weird, huh?
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alright you got me good with that one. MisterFred.
The Shogun 2 benchmarks perform like you said.
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I personally, am very happy with it, I was stable @5.0GHz with 1.52, which is a good 24/7 voltage. I decided to go back to stock for a while though.
     
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I'd rather have a 955 overclocked..4 true cores..or maybe a Thuban.
 
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M8, a Phenom is power hungry! Not to mention a 6300 will beat them all (Apart from the highest end thubab, in some cases)
     
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That statement applied only to the Total War series, which seems to have majorly benefited from one of the seemingly minor instruction set changes moving from sandy bridge to ivy bridge.
Bit Tech's Shogun 2: Total War CPU benchmark

Yes, that is a stock i5-3570k narrowly out-performing a 5.0 ghz i5-2500k. Yes, Bit Tech said they checked several times to make sure the benchmark was right. Yes, I went to the large Total War fansites for confirmation - user experience backs up Bit Tech's numbers.

Weird, huh?

i did the same exact test using shogun with my thuban at 4GHz and the 7970 at stock 1080 High




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i did the same exact test using shogun with my thuban at 4GHz and the 7970 at stock 1080 High

Potentially interesting, but are you sure you didn't run the GPU benchmark - as that's almost exactly the numbers you'd expect with a 7970?
    
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Potentially interesting, but are you sure you didn't run the GPU benchmark - as that's almost exactly the numbers you'd expect with a 7970?

you are right, Mister, i apologize. here is the right run at 4GHz Quad on my Phenom and the 7970 at stock . . .



i think i owe jprovido an apology, too.
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