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Not at all, which is why Apple gets so much. They don't invent anything.
false, post steve jobs apple didn't invent anything, just more ways to rip off consumers. before then i was impressed by apple, now i'm offended by them.
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Probably true. I would probably have switched to a Mac by now if all of my games would run on it. And oh yeah, if I could build my own at a reasonable price point and not pay the Mac premium.



You can make a Hackintosh very easily. Lots of respectable people have done this and use them on a regular basis so I guess that speaks on their reliability. Your still going to have the issue with games but depending on what games you play they might run on it just fine. I would definitely say Mac has a bigger chance of becoming the next switch over Linux. So you if your one of those people wishing and hoping for that one day Linux gaming machine, it may make sense to switch to OSX and give that a try.
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You can make a Hackintosh very easily. Lots of respectable people have done this and use them on a regular basis so I guess that speaks on their reliability. Your still going to have the issue with games but depending on what games you play they might run on it just fine. I would definitely say Mac has a bigger chance of becoming the next switch over Linux. So you if your one of those people wishing and hoping for that one day Linux gaming machine, it may make sense to switch to OSX and give that a try.
NO!
1. they are polar opposites despite being based off unix, one open and free, one closed and costly
2. linux has heaps of games, mostly indie, but so many.
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Microsoft wants to be Apple, EA wants to be Activision, and no one particularly likes Apple OR Activision. What else did you guys expect in a news thread?
I was thought EA wanna be Valve Steam.
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I was thought EA wanna be Valve Steam.

No, they're just mad at Valve and want to screw with their baby (steam).
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NO!
1. they are polar opposites despite being based off unix, one open and free, one closed and costly
2. linux has heaps of games, mostly indie, but so many.

As much as myself wants it.. big game titles are not coming to Linux before they come to Mac. Developers are not going to cater to Linux before they cater to the Mac versions. He said he would switch to Mac if it wasn't for them being expensive, I gave my alternative and honest truth when it comes to PC gaming OSX will see it way before Linux does.
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As much as myself wants it.. big game titles are not coming to Linux before they come to Mac. Developers are not going to cater to Linux before they cater to the Mac versions. He said he would switch to Mac if it wasn't for them being expensive, I gave my alternative and honest truth when it comes to PC gaming OSX will see it way before Linux does.

I disagree, most of OS X's marketshare aren't really gamers who'd buy a PC specifically to game whereas the amount of gamers who are aware of and probably would actually try Linux (Look at the amount of Apple hate here and in other PC gaming communities) isn't actually as low as some people think, while definitely not a majority as Linux stands now, it's definitely bigger than what the perceived marketshare of OS X would be for gamers.
    
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So I read through most of the posts and just wanted to add that it is not you or I that actually matters and would actually impact Microsofts decision here. It is actually Corporate worlds that would have this impact. My company that I work for has over 100,000 windows hosts (not counting servers and such, just the end user hosts.) and we were on windows XP for the longest time (litterally only maybe 5% of our hosts ever were upgraded to Vista, and it was company politics that made that happen.) We then made the move toward windows 7 and it is fantastic for the business. However, we have NO plans to move to windows 8... ever. If you call their corporate support number for Windows they would even tell you that they recommend sticking with Windows 7 for your environment... interresting how MS is telling the corporate market to NOT upgrade their hosts if they are already in the process of deploying (or have deployed) windows 7.

This tells me that even MS knows this software is meant for the "home user" or "Mobile user" and not the "power user/corporate user". The reason for this is simple... Windows 8 has an enormous learning curve to it. Everyone can figure out easily how to use windows 7 coming from windows XP or windows 2000.

To those who bought up "why are you going to pay for an OS that has been the same for the past 15 years with just a bit of rebranding" does not know what they are talking about. There are two major aspects to an OS, how is actually runs and how the user makes it run. These are two separate things. Moving from windows xp to windows 7 is like moving from a 1999 Honda Civic to a 2009 Civic. The user interface has remained relatively the same... got a stearing wheel, 4 tires, a gas petal, automatic transmission, radio (albiet with a few added bells and whistles), and 4 seats, but the way it runs beyond the user's view is way better (better gas mileage, more power, etc). Going from windows 7 to windows 8 is like going from an automatic transmission to a manual transmission. How I start the car, accelerate from 0 and continue to accelerate into later gears is now totally different and far more complecated. Its why you can basically throw anyone from one automatic transmission car to another and they drive about the same, but good luck doing that from automatic to manual.

(Yes I know I just violated one of the rules of interwebs... all discussions about computers somehow end up comparing to cars... but this comparison is a valid one)

Bottom line, companies just do not have the resources to teach their otherwise productive workers how to function again on windows 8. This cost money in training, and is losing them money in productivity. It can be the most amazing piece of technology, but if the cost outweighs any potential performance increase, there will be noone that will go for it. Our computers only get restarted once a week on average, so your wonderful 5 second boot time is negligible... nevermind that applying group policies and syncing with the domain is still going to take a butload of time (our network generally takes 10 minutes to reboot so saving 25 seconds is really not a performance gain here...)
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The reason for this is simple... Windows 8 has an enormous learning curve to it.

Dramatic much?

My four year old nephew learned how to use it after I showed it to him one time. He's always going into the store and downloading games which thankfully is safe for him to do since the store/metro is a controlled environment.

For the majority of end users in the "corporate world" it amounts to a slightly different way to open word/excel/internet explorer/outlook/other generic office software.

Furthermore, anyone even the slightest bit familiar with "the corporate world" knows that "the corporate world" has never in recent history automatically jumped on a new version of Windows, not even months or multiple years after its release and for obvious reasons.

MS are providing official support for Windows 7 until 2020 and if it comes to light that "the corporate world" requires something closer to Windows 7 in almost a decades time, they will simply provide it. Simple as.

They are more than happy for people to continue rolling out their business platforms on their most stable and refined version of Windows while XP slowwwwwwly phases out.

In the mean time, yes, they are taking it to the media/home user market with Windows 8 and they have a loooong time before "the corporate world" start clamouring for a new version of WIndows.

Businesses don't buy new stuff "just because". General end consumers do. Therefore, tablets and Windows 8.
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Dramatic much?

My four year old nephew learned how to use it after I showed it to him one time. He's always going into the store and downloading games which thankfully is safe for him to do since the store/metro is a controlled environment.

For the majority of end users in the "corporate world" it amounts to a slightly different way to open word/excel/internet explorer/outlook/other generic office software.

Furthermore, anyone even the slightest bit familiar with "the corporate world" knows that "the corporate world" has never in recent history automatically jumped on a new version of Windows, not even months or multiple years after its release and for obvious reasons.

MS are providing official support for Windows 7 until 2020 and if it comes to light that "the corporate world" requires something closer to Windows 7 in almost a decades time, they will simply provide it. Simple as.

They are more than happy for people to continue rolling out their business platforms on their most stable and refined version of Windows while XP slowwwwwwly phases out.

In the mean time, yes, they are taking it to the media/home user market with Windows 8 and they have a loooong time before "the corporate world" start clamouring for a new version of WIndows.

Businesses don't buy new stuff "just because". General end consumers do. Therefore, tablets and Windows 8.

As you see most here simply don't care about whether you or your nephew love Win 8. The moment you understand the word preference is the moment you understand why the majority of PC users don't like that metrosexual interface that comes with Win 8 and its Plus pack Win Fail... I mean Blue.

Alternative is to become a dictator and enforce your view.
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