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And my whole point (apart from pointing out that businesses are always slow with OS adoption) was that the vast majority of people who use computers never get past needing to use anything further than basic functionality, even (or especially) in buildings with large amounts of computers.

File exploring is the same. Internet browsing is the same. The whole desktop is the same. The only thing that changed (during common use scenarios) is how they launch programs and unless they use 100 different programs/day (in reality its probably no more than three) even pinning to taskbar or using desktop shortcuts would mitigate that change completely.

If what people generally used Windows for was to mess about with workings of Windows, as opposed to simply using Windows to launch the productivity programs they use, I'd agree that you have a point here.

But that isn't the case.

My point that the majority of people who use Windows PCs specialise in the software they use on Windows, not Windows itself, still stands.

Unless launching their programs (aka "simple clicking on huge tiles" which as you point out, doesn't take an expert to do) is too much for them, in which case they are most likely vegetables and not actually employees.

Ah the fancy most people argument. Well to be true if we are talking about "most people" we can remove the ability to install anything but skype, maybe allow a few games through origin or Steam. Wouldn't that be grand?

Most people don't need a plane, I need several. The clerk at the hardware store doesn't giving me a blank stare when I ask for a specific iron. He doesn't go up to the computer to order it because he has some in stock that might work. it's hardly the most profitable venture for him but it isn't a loss either and I as a customer smile when i walk out of the store. It wouldn't be hard for Microsoft to do the same thing, It wouldn't be costly.
But then again, most people... they don't need a spoon, got hands don't they.
 
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Ah the fancy most people argument. Well to be true if we are talking about "most people" we can remove the ability to install anything but skype, maybe allow a few games through origin or Steam. Wouldn't that be grand?

Most people don't need a plane, I need several. The clerk at the hardware store doesn't giving me a blank stare when I ask for a specific iron. He doesn't go up to the computer to order it because he has some in stock that might work. it's hardly the most profitable venture for him but it isn't a loss either and I as a customer smile when i walk out of the store. It wouldn't be hard for Microsoft to do the same thing, It wouldn't be costly.
But then again, most people... they don't need a spoon, got hands don't they.

Most people I know offline hate the damn OS. In fact, no-one I know likes it, and not-one I know knows anyone who likes it.
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Most people I know offline hate the damn OS. In fact, no-one I know likes it, and not-one I know knows anyone who likes it.

Not going to argue about your friends wiews, I agree with them. But It's not a relevant argument to be true. People tend to cluster with others who agree with them, Using ones friends as a measure of anything usually amounts to having your own wiews on a subject verified even if some might contest it.
 
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Not going to argue about your friends wiews, I agree with them. But It's not a relevant argument to be true. People tend to cluster with others who agree with them, Using ones friends as a measure of anything usually amounts to having your own wiews on a subject verified even if some might contest it.

I'm not friends with all of them, but I agree and I was talking the piss out of GB for his "most people" comment.

Fact of the matter is, I haven't spoken to a single person about this, offline, outside of OCN, that actually likes it.
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I'm not friends with all of them, but I agree and I was talking the piss out of GB for his "most people" comment.

Fact of the matter is, I haven't spoken to a single person about this, offline, outside of OCN, that actually likes it.

Same here no one I know likes it and anyone who is usign a touch device uses an apple or android. One of my mates had it. I gave it a shot. long story shot there were many compatibility issues and the unintuitive UI for desktop use. Sorry Microsoft I've gone back to windows 7 until you can sort something out for the desktop users, windows 9? I honestly really can't wait for a powerful desktop oriented OS update from Microsoft.

Start button?? at least have an option to make it available.

Not that I like them any more but take a look at Apple they have a separate OS's for touch devices and desktops instead of trying to bundle them together and doing a bad job at it. I understand how microsoft want to compete with apple but we still need some individuality and some unique products
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Im sure DOS is easy....With a guidebook.

The only guidebook I had was my aunt helping me with spelling commands correctly, and if you put people back on DOS then they'd be requiring a lot of time to learn everything.
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7 hidden gems in Windows Blue

http://www.itworld.com/windows/350114/7-hidden-gems-windows-blue

I bet anything that minkernel is for the next Xbox, maybe MS is going to enable it for some PC users to have a purely gaming OS? Think like what Steambox is rumoured to be (A cheap PC that boots straight into Linux) except as an Xbox..Maybe an Xbox PC, you connect it to your TV and it can do more tasks than the next xbox that a PC could also do.
    
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7 hidden gems in Windows Blue

http://www.itworld.com/windows/350114/7-hidden-gems-windows-blue

The first one isn't particularly interesting. I think the barcode scanner support is interesting though. There are a lot of barcode applications that are being spammed around the net, not unlike video conversion tools (you know, the ones that all look the same and don't work), so this might reduce their market a little.
    
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I have no idea what minkernel is but the rest are all aimed at mobile. Thus Win Blue is not for desktop but touchscreen users.
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7 hidden gems in Windows Blue

http://www.itworld.com/windows/350114/7-hidden-gems-windows-blue

just as I suspected, nothing I'm interested in. rolleyes.gif
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