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Why are people getting mad at enhanced functionality for touch screens jesus christ

You realize that people who DON'T have touch-enabled devices are becoming a minority, right?

I own a touch enabled device(my phone), but I am not touching my 27" IPS display when can lean back in my comfortable computer chair and operate it with Keyboard and Mouse. Touch feature are nice, but it is pointless for the majority of the Desktop users.
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God...... it is looking like mac might come back from the grave with this.
More like Linux. Mac is also a poor choice for productivity. Not to mention Linux is free while Mac OS isn't.
post #63 of 235
touch will be old hat soon


augmented gesturing with eyes and hand movements is now here. apple has a little box for it, ms should of used kinetic for windows and samsung already use eye augmentation. google glasses will be augmented through had and eye tracking too

touch screen is going out eventually. 5 years from now people will have clean screens and a full hand / wand control

just lol at the touch screen evangelists doh.gif
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Why are people getting mad at enhanced functionality for touch screens jesus christ

You realize that people who DON'T have touch-enabled devices are becoming a minority, right?

Windows 8 has its quirks, but it's a step in the right direction. It's an OS that works just as well with a mouse as it does with a touchscreen. People just don't like it because they're used to the same UI that MS has been rehashing over and over again since 1995. Some of you need to learn how to embrace change. There will be a lot of changes in your life. You might have to move out of your mom's garage soon, for instance.

Personally, I like Windows 8 because it's faster, and I thought that's what being an enthusiast was all about. But apparently, it's about spending a couple hundred bucks every few years for something that's almost exactly the same as its predecessor.

No matter how much the mainstream press and some companies say that touch devices are the future they'll still be wrong. It's just a new and separate market from the normal desktops and laptops we've had for ages. Sure some of the people who only need to browse facebook and email will move to a tablet but if you actually do any work you wont be using a touch device. The desktop and laptop markets aren't going anywhere, there are no devices that could replace them. Win7 will most likely be the next XP in terms of business markets, it will grab the majority of professional and power user sales for years to come, however at some point if MS refuses to release OSes that cater to that market, their marketshare will start dropping. At that point Linux based OSes will take over if MS isn't offering anything. However I doubt that even Ballmer would be that crazy.

Win8 is a compromise between a touch device OS and a non touch device OS, it's not a step forward, just a compromise MS is making so they don't actually have to cater to different markets.

I like win7 because it's faster to use, I don't care about boot times since my post messages and phase change unit starting up take many times as long as booting into an OS anyways. As for general performance the difference is nearly nonexistent, sometimes win8 is worse as well.

People aren't resisting change for the sake of resisting change, they're resisting because the kind of change MS is making is stupid and doesn't benefit the userbase on OCN at all. Do you really think a single UI that doesn't work excellently on any devices is a change for the better? No it isn't. What would be best for all of us would be if MS actually offered multiple versions of windows with different UIs or actually just offered the option to disable "modern UI", charms, etc.
 
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Hey, watch Razer cash in on the touch craze with their new
RAZER Anaconda!

Crush your opponents with macro binding touch gestures!

Keybind your skills to each hand, up to FIVE PER HAND!

Enhance your gaming efficiency with Razer's Extreme Precision Technology!!

Oh boy, another power glove here we go again

No, seriously though. Touch devices should remain portable, and at POS stations.

I don't need a touch enabled computer. I like sitting back in my Civic seat, from a distance, and play my games and browse the web in comfort.

I don't need to be all touchy feely with my screen and have to clean it 100x a day because of stupid touch gestures.

Until Microsoft trashes this stupid crap and lack of a start button and trying to force touching our computers on us, I will stay with windows 7
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you guys need to remember that Microsoft wants to unified both platform, desktop and mobile, I see it as a pretty good solution to it, while Keeping all of the desktop OS powerful features.

To be clear, I'm not against Win8 being a unified platform with two interfaces. What I am against is *forcing* users on non-touch devices to use a touch interface. That is 100% as bad a solution as forcing a touch interface to use a non-touch shell (as someone pointed out, Win7 w/ touch is not that great). They can and should be separated...two shells, one OS. This is not rocket science...it's basic computer science.
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Quit whining and just use start8 or something.

If you think anyone should have to install a 3rd party app to restore the basic functionality that an OS once provided, that no one but Ballmer asked to be removed from Windows, then you're a very special person. Bending over and accepting the crap that is shoved up your rear end with a wink and a smile, because you can always take it out yourself later after all...you're a bigger man than I, my friend.
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Windows 8 has been the best, most stable and reliable OS the desktop computer has seen since XP service pack 1.

Considering that Windows 7 is better and more stable than XP, I now question your every opinion.
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Windows 8 for users requires TRAINING! The people I work for would be so confused with the different interfaces. Windows 7 will be around for a LONG TIME!

QFT, and something a lot of the apologists and "personal use only" crowd either overlook or don't understand. I have 650 people in my organization that understand Windows 7 well enough to do their job...but that's about as far as it goes. My best guess is that only 20% of them at best will be able to jump to Windows 8 without a painful transition involving training and endless calls to the IT help desk. That costs money, LOTS of money. That is why NO CORPORATIONS are clamoring for Windows, vanilla, Blue, or Raspberry Red. Fortunately, since corporations have volume licensing contracts, they are able to keep buying Windows 7. Average Joe Best Buy Customer does not have that luxury.
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Seriously, this is getting old. If you hate it so much, why do you keep discussing it? You remind me of the children on The Walking Dead forums over at IMDB. Hate it, yet can't stop discussing it. Pathetic to be honest.

For one, this is my first time posting about Windows 8 in any capacity on OCN, to my recollection.

Second, as has been pointed out, this is the internet. I've participated in (and moderated) a lot of "debates" on topics much lamer than this on OCN.
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How dare people express their distaste. rolleyes.gif
Yes, the ability to customize is nice, but I shouldn't have to resort to modding my OS to restore functionality that every previous OS had standard.

Finally, someone gets it!

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No matter how much the mainstream press and some companies say that touch devices are the future they'll still be wrong. It's just a new and separate market from the normal desktops and laptops we've had for ages.

Yes yes, exactly. Touch *is* going to be a huge part of our future...but it is only *one* interface of the future. Traditional keyboards are going NOWHERE. And as tech like Siri starts really getting worked out, voice will be added to the mix in spades. Companies have to get on board the touch train so they aren't left behind, but ruining your *other* interface for the sake of touch is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
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I love Windows 7. That's it. Hate me.
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Microsoft should have made the metro screen the "start" menu. Instead of adding another dimension to the Windows OS (metro screen) beside the desktop that will scare off many people they should just make it a "windowed-start menu" or something. That way people can still use some form of a start menu and access the control panel or other apps without leaving the desktop, while introducing the touch-interface at the same time.

Something like this:

Which is a feature from Start8
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I really like the full screen Start Menu on Windows 8, it really helps me have nice and neat all of my applications in categories so I can find them way faster and I don't have to clutter my desktop (which I hate) or fill my taskbar from pinning.

I also like using some apps for basic casual stuff like the weather, facebook, twitter etc. but of course when I need to work I am just on the desktop but if I need to take a break I can just sump on my apps which are there wasting minimum resources and they are not making clutter in my taskbar while I'm working.

What I would like to see is apps with more functionality (for example Skype is unusable for me, it's terrible), context menus in the Start Menu, the ability to launch multiple desktop applications together (for example I might want to run Photoshop, Autodesk, Mudbox and Cryengine at the same time) and a better Programs menu (it's pretty much disgusting even though I rarely use it) and then I'll be a happy man.
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Hmm.... Who is the fool here? Someone who bought win 8 hoping that it would be what they need, or some one who spent 3 minutes doing research and bought win 7. It's you guys' fault for buying an Os without doing any research. The only thing you should be complaining about is how dumb you are for blindly buying a product and then complaining when you are not happy.

lol One does not BUY windows 8.

My only experience has been on a laptop that my ex got during the holidays. and the computer her dad got as well. The PC took an HOUR to setup up. The damn thing MAKES you create an account, AND have internet access before you can even start using it. It was a serious pain in the ass. After that, it was even more of a pain in the ass just trying to do some simple things with it. On my ex's laptop I disabled the start tile thing (stupid metro crap) and at least then got a bit more functionality out of it.

Window's "Apps" are strange at best. Full screen, zero window resizing.

Oh, and don't get me started how stupid closing programs works.
When you "close" a program, it doesn't close. It shoves itself into a task window, and just sits there, still eating up memory. You have to then go up to the top left corner, right click on the program, and click it to exit.

No one buy's windows 8 here. We get it forced on us when we buy new window machines.


By the way, on my computer, I have zero desktop icons. If I ever feel the need that I use a program enough I might pin it. I do that with firefox, and the main library folder. Everything else I usually make a folder and stash important short cuts in them, and create a toolbar button with it. I do that mainly for my games. I have a nice folder that says games, and I click it, and it pops up a menu with all my gaming short cuts. The live tiles things I think is kind of useless on a computer, as most of the time I will be busy using the internet or gaming. And I don't like having ANYTHING on my desktop, except my wallpaper. So those live tiles again defeat my idea of a good desktop

These are my opinions though. Some people might actually like that cluttered mess
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